NY City Arrest of out of state license holders.

With all of the news about people from out of state that have a CCW being arrested and facing 3 1/2 years in jail for having a handgun in NY and NYC,  I was wondering what punishment should be in store for a NYC or NY State resident who does not have a handgun license at all not just having a handgun but who ends up shooting the handgun?

  • Now what should happen if the guns were illegally supplied by a police officer?
  • Now, what if it was not just some corrupt police officer but the Police Commissioner?
  • Now what if the people the corrupt Police Commissioner who illegally gave the people the guns and ammunition, actually allowed the unlicensed people to illegally handle and fire handguns at a police range and ordered other police officers to instruct the criminals how to illegally shoot the handguns?
  • Now what if those people illegally holding and shooting the handguns were not just some ordinary citizen but anti-gun political office holders who had supported and passed some of the laws that had made their own actions illegal?
  • Now what if those people illegally holding and shooting the handguns illegally given to them by the Police Commissioner who allowed them to illegally shoot them at a police range were not just some average anti-gun political office holder but members of the City Council including the City Council Speaker?

What should happen to them?

Call the press and have pictures of the event and a news article about them shooting the guns but leave out that all those who shot a handgun without a license were doing so illegally and who ever supplied the guns and assisted them was committing a felony and they could all be locked up for much more than the 3 1/2 years that you get for just having a gun.  That is what Police Commissioner Ray Kelly did in 2010 at a NYPD firing range in the Bronx.  Attending and also committing a felony were 15 members of the NYC City Council  including Speaker Christine Quinn.  Somehow I don’t think that any of the  anti-gun City Council members including Speaker Quinn, Councilman Peter Vallone (D-Queens), chairman of the Public Safety Committee, Councilman Michael Nelson (D-Brooklyn), Jumaane Williams (D-Brooklyn), a member of the council’s liberal Progressive Caucus and other members of the City Council have handgun licenses.

That leads us to one question.  Do all or some of those 15 people have handgun licenses?  If they have a license then how hypocritical is it of them have a license and then make it as hard as possible for everyone else to have a handgun license.  If any of them does not have a license then why isn’t the DA charging them and having Commissioner Ray Kelly and those who helped them arrested and charged with illegal transfer of handguns to people who they know do not have a license?  Why is Mayor Bloomburg not saying anything about such a flagrant violation of NY State and NY City gun laws? After all, as we have seen with the out of state people who stupidly thought that they could bring a handgun into NY or NYC, ignorance of the law is no excuse.

From the NY Post: Pressure under fire

Pols get a taste of danger cops face

By KEVIN FASICK and SALLY GOLDENBERG

Last Updated: 10:55 AM, July 9, 2010  Posted: 3:04 AM, July 9, 2010

City Council Speaker Christine Quinn gave it her best shot.

She was one of 15 legislators who learned firsthand yesterday what it’s like to shoot a weapon and be a cop on the street — after being invited by Police Commissioner Ray Kelly to the NYPD firing range in The Bronx.

Kelly and his officers schooled the council members on using guns in simulated crime situations designed to give the lawmakers a better understanding of what cops face. He had invited all 51 members shortly after The Post reported that a bill had been introduced in Albany requiring cops to shoot to wound, not kill.

SWEATING BULLETS: Council Speaker Christine Quinn (above) takes part in a crime simulation at an NYPD firing range yesterday following a Post report about a bill requiring cops to shoot to wound.

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SWEATING BULLETS: Council Speaker Christine Quinn (above) takes part in a crime simulation at an NYPD firing range yesterday following a Post report about a bill requiring cops to shoot to wound.

The bill, drafted in the wake of Sean Bell’s controversial police-shooting death, infuriated cops. It would force officers to use their weapons “with the intent to stop, rather than kill” a suspect. They would be mandated to “shoot a suspect in the arm or the leg.”

Under present NYPD training, cops are taught to shoot at the center of their target and fire their weapon until the threat has been stopped.

“It was an invaluable experience for an elected official,” said Councilman Peter Vallone (D-Queens), chairman of the Public Safety Committee, after testing his skills.

“So many of us made the wrong choices in the few seconds we had to react. I personally was killed today by a machete-wielding drunk holding a baby because I waited too long to shoot. This helps you much better to understand what a police officer has to go through on the street,” Vallone added.

Councilman Michael Nelson (D-Brooklyn) said the exercise made him more understanding of the split-second decisions cops face.

“I got almost all of my bullets in my target, but it was a little bit eerie. It helped crystallize my thoughts about the situations that our officers get into. It’s just too easy to second-guess and Monday-morning quarterback,” Nelson said.

But not every member was sold after the experience.

“I think I had an appreciation and I have even more of an appreciation [now] of the split-second decisions a police officer has to make, but I still believe the training should be geared toward preventing loss of life as much as possible,” said Jumaane Williams (D-Brooklyn), a member of the council’s liberal Progressive Caucus.

Quinn (D-Manhattan) shot a Glock and a Smith & Wesson at a 10-yard range.

“On my first one, I got two in the shoulder and two center mass,” Quinn bragged after obliterating her target.

Kelly said the politicians “got to see a good example of the training our officers receive and an understanding of what they may encounter on the street.”

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/bronx/pressure_under_fire_dWbmJ6bLxnjanaRA2BYawJ#ixzz1kanL6UP6

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