NY State Police give out “assault weapons” registry numbers

The NY State Police gave out the numbers for the number of so called “assault weapons” registered and how many people registered them. 23,847 people have registered their a total of 44,485 weapons. Orange County is number 7 with 985 registering their guns. The first 10 are
1 Suffolk 3,865
2 Nassau 2,755
3 New York (Manhattan) 1,640
4 Erie 1,593
5 Westchester 1,498
6 Monroe 1,408
7 Orange 985
8 Onondaga 916
9 Dutchess 731
10 Saratoga 573
How local counties rate:
7 Orange 985
9 Dutchess 731
13 Ulster 463
15 Rockland 451
26 Sullivan 229
What is odd is that Manhattan and the rest of NYC are already under an AW Ban that is stricter than the state wide ban so the only way that the people could register their “assault weapons” is if they are keeping them outside of NYC. Also I did see a list that included “Pistols” and that is impossible because all handguns are already registered so you would not have to register them as AWs but under Pataki’s old AW ban you could not register AWs on you handgun license so you can not buy any handguns after the NY unSAFE act passed. I have talked to several “non gun” people who happen to own a few rifles or handguns for some reason so they said that they were just going to register all of their guns even though they told me that they only owned bolt action rifles or a standard Ruger 10/22. I wonder what the error rate is in registering non-assault weapons as assault weapons?

A great big thanks and job well done to Paloma Capana and SCOPE!!!!


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SCOPE ALERT, All hands on deck, full repeal of SAFE ACT!!!!!!!!!!

If we are ever going to have any leverage to get something done this is it!!! I listened to “The Call,” (a cable only NYC call in show on Time-Warner channel 1,) and you would not believe the people calling in whining about how they need rent control. Make sure you call the local office also.

Today is the day!

NYC rent control expired at midnight last night. Assemblyman Lopez has a Bill pending for FULL REPEAL of the “SAFE Act,” tied to rent control extensions – Bill A08215.

It’s up to us to make a mighty noise to the NYS Senate Republican Conference – NOW!

Call. Fax. Email. Doorknock at the Legislative Office Building. Demonstrate at the Senate chamber waiting area to greet them as they enter at noon. Make a phone video on your support for FULL REPEAL and post it to your Facebook page (mark it “public”), then message us so we can share it across to the SCOPE Facebook page. Like and share the SCOPE Facebook posts to spread the word.

The ask is simply this:
1 – NYS Senate “same as” Bill to the Lopez Assembly Bill A08215;
2 – NYS Senate immediate vote to pass the “same as” Bill.

Don’t have Senate telephone numbers? Each one is listed out on our SCOPE FB page. And here’s the link to the Senate directory on line: http://www.nysenate.gov/senators.

Every hour matters and every voice matters. Make your voice heard for FULL REPEAL!

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Sheriff’s Department changes rules about “safety classes,” (I wonder why?)

I guess that I can start giving classes again.

Date: Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 4:22 PM
Subject: Fwd: Instructors List

To All Current Instructors,

Due to certain developments this Office will, going forward, accept training certificates from instructors in addition to those on the approved and recommended list. Accordingly, you are no longer required to be on the list. Any Instructor that wishes to have themselves removed from the list please advise by return email.

For those that choose to remain on the list please be reminded that approval to be on the list should not be implied to the public that you, as an instructor, are affiliated in any way with the Sheriff’s Office other than having been approved to teach a prescribed syllabus that we have provided. To remove any confusion we have removed any reference to “certification” and replaced it with “approved”.

Everything else seems to be going well except that some Instructors are notifying our Office about their classes the day of or shortly after giving them. Please be reminded that timely notification to this Office of classes that have 3 or more students is a requirement and please be advised that timely is to be interpreted as at least 48 hours in advance.

Any questions? You may contact me directly at (845) 291-7693

KT Jones

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I’ve been busy.

I have been very busy the last few weeks.  I started on March 28th when I took the NRA-NMLRA Instructor Muzzleloading Rifle Class with Charles Provenzano at the Joseph A. Citta Scout Reservation in NJ.  I had a great time and it was a very good class.

From April 9th to the 12th I spent my annual 4 day weekend at the Ten Mile River Boy Scout Reservation.  I gave a BIT class on Friday, a Muzzleloading Rifle Class on Saturday and on Sunday I gave another BIT class.  It was a little cold but it was not quite as wet as it has been in the past two years but we had snow on the ground and the lakes were still frozen.

Sunday April 19th I took the NRA Instructors CF Reloading class with James Boyle at the Delaware Valley Sports Center, 101 Geiger Rd, Northeast Philadelphia, PA.  It was a good class and I had fun even though I was a little under the weather.  James is a great instructor and gives several classes including instructor classes because he is an NRA Training Counselor.

I have added Muzzleloading and Metallic Cartridge Reloading to my ratings.

April 25 and 26 I went to NYSRPA’s U. S. Service Rifle Small Arms Firing School at the Peconic River Sportsman’s Club in Manorville, NY.  I got to shoot a legal, registered AR-15 A-2 as part of the CMP program at 200 yard targets with iron sights.  I did good in prone, fair at sitting and “forget about it” in standing.  About 59 people attended and it seemed that they had almost that many people who volunteered to help in many ways including instructors, coaches and safety officers.  The volunteers all did a great job.  If you get a chance to go you should do it and bring your kids and better half’s also.  I saw many father/son and husband/wife students students.  It is worth it just to see the club grounds that the club purchased in the 70s from the Woolworth family.  The purchase also included some of the original animal mounts including a large elephant head.  The building was nice but not fancy, it looked like a typical hunting lodge but on a grander scale.  If you go I  suggest that you book a hotel room early for a cheaper price and to be closer to the club.  I waited and ended up having to spend $175 a night for a nice small two room suit with kitchen but I was not there to enjoy it and it was 20 minutes away from the club.  The cheapest hotels are still around $115 + tax if you book early and they are much closer and that helps because Saturday they start at 8 AM and Sunday they start at 7 AM.   Don’t forget to include the bad traffic on Long Island, it takes about 2 1/2 hours for a 1 1/4 hour trip Friday evening going and Sunday afternoon leaving.

200 yard prone with iron sights

50 foot 22 cal group prone.

50 foot 22 cal group prone.

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I forgot to update the information in January but here it is now.  The total number of new handgun licenses in Orange County was 1,601.  That number represented 134 fewer new licenses or a 7.8% reduction from the 2013 total number of 1,735.

Some interesting numbers:

Total number of new licenses from 2008 – 2014, (7 years,) is 8,547 for a 7 year average of 1,221.

Total number of new licenses from 1993 to 2007, (15 years,) is 6,690 for a 15 year average of 446.  This includes a large spike in 2001 and 2002 caused by NYC police officers who retired after 9-11 and live in Orange County.

That means that in the last 7 years Orange County has issued 1,855 more licenses that were issued in the previous 15 years.

While I don’t expect the numbers to stay this high over the long term, I do expect the numbers to stay around the 7 year average for  the next few years of between 1,100 to 1,400.  These numbers dispel the RECENT REPORT that the number of gun owners are on the decline at least in Orange County.  One of the few advantages of the NY handgun regulation is that we can tell how many new handgun owners apply for a license.  In most states anyone can go out and just buy a handgun but will need to apply for a license for a Concealed Carry License so you can’t tell from those numbers how many people are new handgun owner there are.  In NY we know by the number of new licenses how many new handgun owners there are because they could not have legally owned or purchased a handgun without a license.

  • 2014            1,601
  • 2013            1,735
  • 2012            1,346
  • 2011             993
  • 2010            1,170
  • 2009            1,000
  • 2008            700
  • 2007            508
  • 2006            454
  • 2005            446
  • 2004            422
  • 2003            431
  • 2002            600  (LEO retirement after 9/11)
  • 2001            508  (LEO retirement after 9/11)
  • 2000            374
  • 1999             326
  • 1998             308
  • 1997             432
  • 1996            341
  • 1995            463
  • 1994            508
  • 1993            569
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Make sure you attend the local Friends of the NRA Dinner on March 14.  Get your tickets on line at orangecountyfnra.org/

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World Fishing & Outdoor Expo in Suffern, NY MARCH 7 & 8, 2015

I will be at the World Fishing & Outdoor Expo in Suffern, NY on Sat. and Sunday at the NRA booth (#828.) Stop by and say high. Saturday: 9:30am-7:00pm Sunday: 9:30am-5:00pm Show Admission Adults: $13.00 Exhibitors and Seminars

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The Orange County Sheriff’s department has now taken control over all Handgun Safety classes.

    In 2014 the Orange County Sheriff’s Department started offering a three hour “safety course” of their own design and the Undersheriff is now in charge of deciding who else is allowed to be instructors. The Sheriff department’s “approved instructors” are allowed to give a class but they must use the PowerPoint lesson plan that the Sheriff’s department created without any changes and they must issue a Sheriff’s department approves “Safety Class” certificate. THIS IS NOT AN NRA CLASS.
After January 1, 2015 all safety classes given for pistol applications in Orange County must comply with all of the new requirements that the Undersheriff has created.  Only approved Orange County Sheriff’s Department “Safety Class” certificates will be accepted when applying for a pistol license in Orange County.
Because I object to the new system and how it was implemented and submitted a 6 page letter outlining my concerns to the Safety Committee of the Orange County Legislature, the Undersheriff has decided that I am not a team player and will not be allowed to be an “approved instructor” so I will no longer be able to offer the class that I used to offer.
I contend that the Sheriff’s Department has no legal or moral authority to take over the list or even require a safety class for any pistol license applicant to be issued a handgun license.  The class that the Sheriff’s Department will not be accepted in any state that I know of, to meet the requirement of a safety class as part of getting an out of state license.  Normally only an NRA class or a class given by an instructor approved by that state are accepted to meet that state’s requirements so if you want to get a Florida license you will have to take an NRA class.
I will post links to the letter that I sent to the Safety Committee of the Orange County Legislature and minuets from the Committee meeting when they become available.
The Undersheriff has been very heavy handed in this.  When he had the original meeting with some of the Board Members of the Orange County Federation of Sportsmen’s Clubs and myself, he told us what he would do and when he would do it.  At a second meeting at the Sheriff’s Department he did agree that he would not regulate how much we could charge and people who lived in Ulster and Sullivan county could apply to be approved instructors in Orange County.  The Undersheriff has never published all of the rules and regulations even to the instructors who took his required class.

I will still offer NRA Pistol classes to people or groups who have a pistol license and want or need the NRA class.  Please email to set up a class or for more information.

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Big news on the FOIL request for number of registered “Assault Weapons”

I put in a Freedom of Information Act, or FOIL, to the NY State Police on June 19, 2013  to find out how many so called “assault weapons” had been registered as of that date.  I was denied that information, … Continue reading

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I am going Guest Host on WTBQ, Sat. 9/20/14

David Dirk is on assignment and has asked me to cover for him on Saturday, 9/20/14, while he is away.  The show, “Dirk’s Outdoors Radio Show” on WTBQ, is the only outdoor radio show in NY. WTBQ is a locally owned AM/FM station that is “Radio Worth Listening To”, and broadcasts a mix of local and national talk, news programs and music all night long!

You will have to tune in early to catch the show because it is on from 7 AM to 8 AM.  It is a call in show so if you want you can call in and ask a question.  (845-651-1110)  You can find WTBQ at 1110 AM and 93.5 FM dial or you can listen on the internet or go to their website and down their APP to your Cell or Tablet.  I listen using TUNEIN RADIO.

Upcoming events and other topics.  The recent Orange County Federation Dinner, hunting season, and The FLEA MARKETS AT SHAWANGUNK FISH AND GAME
37 Denman Rd., Middletown, NY 10940

New ATF Form 4473 you now have to say what race you are.


My first guest will be Dennis McConnell from the Westchester Retriver Club, Inc.  and member of the Board of Director of the Orange County Federation of Sportsmen’s clubs, Inc. and the Westchester Retriver Club. The Westchester Retriever Club hosts weekly retriever field training sessions for WRC members and their guests at Stewart State Forest, Newburgh.  Dennis is going to talk about what dog training and what field trials are and how you can get involved. Dennis and his wife have owned and trained golden retrievers for 25 years and he has been active members of WRC for close to 20 years. Dennis is a past president of WRC and the Garden State Golden Retriever Club, Inc. and they have focused on trying to encourage golden owners to keep the original “breed purpose” alive in goldens.

My second guest will be Tom King, President of the New York State Rifle and Pistol Association and a member of the Board of Directors of the NRA.  We are going to talk about some of the hot topics from the recent BoD meetings and what’s going on in NY with the unSAFE act, the elections and other topics.

Listen in and catch the show and a big thanks to David Dirks for letting me guest host the show and to Frank Truatt and the WTBQ gang for having such a great radio station.

Post a comment if you want to ask questions.

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