Orange County Legislators want to start process to limit Rifle hunting in Orange County, UPDATE 3/23/00

Carol Klein wins County Family Court Judgeship nomination.

Gov. Mario Pataki SCREWS gun owners.

How long does Mario Pataki want you to go to Jail for?

NY AG SPITZER ANNOUNCES HIS OWN STUPID PLAN.

N.Y. Mayor Supports Licensing System for Gun Owners

Gun Control Provisions Still in Limbo

H. RAP BROWN HAD 45 CAL WHEN ARRESTED  UPDATE

S&W Makes deal with HUD, GOA urges full BOYCOTT

Rosie O'Donnell to Emcee Million Mom March, (link only)

Second Amendment Sisters is holding a Mothers' Day March in D.C.

     I have talked to Pat Berardinelli, Sr., 6th Legislative District from Newburgh and have been told that he along with Stephen Brescia, 9th Legislative District from Montgomery and Leigh J. Benton, 16th Legislative District from Newburgh will be sending a letter to the Orange County Legislature Rules, Enactments and Intergovernmental Relations Committee.  The letter is to ask approval to start the process to ask the different county cities and towns to see if they want to the County Legislator to form a Committee to decide if and how to limit rifle hunting in Orange County.
    George Bucci, Newburgh Supervisor; Stephen Brescia, Montgomery Mayor and George Myers from New Windsor are the ones who have requested this action.

    Carol Klein won the Orange County Republican nomination for the Family Court Judgeship vacancy that was created when Judge John McGuirk was elected to serve on a higher court in the November 1999.  Carol Klein's name will be submitted to Gov. Pataki and he is expected to appoint her to serve until the Nov. elections. Carol Klein will have to run in the November election and if elected will serve for ten years.
    In the past any Republican could expect the support from most gun owners however this election anti-gun Rudy will be running and after the anti-gun laws proposed by Gov. Mario Pataki that support will not come as easy.
 

    I am as upset and surprised about this as I can be.  We will have to wait for the details to see how bad it really is but I can not see how these bill will not pass and possibly within just a few weeks.  It is going to be worse than NJ or Cal.  The only reason that the AWB bills have not passed is that we have a 2 or 3 vote margin in the Senate.  I do not think that we can expect to prevent two or three people from switching when the Gov. of their own party is demanding that they vote for the bill.  The bills are the written by the Democrats and are the same ones that have passed the Assembly but failed in the Senate in past years.  The Senate is our only hope.  They are coming to take away our guns.  This really cuts the legs from George Bush and the NRA.  (Is Pataki paying George back for not choosing him for his VP?)

If you question Governor Pataki's intentions and would like to complain to the NYS Republican Party, please call them at: 914-949-3020.
 

 Governors phone number is: 518-474-8390 (they only ask if you are "for" or "against" - let's keep the phones tied up!)

 Send letters, faxes and e-mails - we need things in bulk quantity! Any phone call should always be followed up with a letter - don't let them "change the numbers/results"!  (CLICK HERE TO SEND HIM AN E-MAIL)
 Pass this on to as many pro gun people as you can please.

When will I be able to see the details of your new gun laws?
It looks like I stand to loose about $5,000 worth of guns because of your new laws.  Guns that NY state approved that I buy just a few years ago.  Now it looks like you want me to go to jail because I own legally licensed firearms.

Please let me know how else you plan to make us felons.  Your new gun laws are going to cost the Republicans the state  Senate and you might as well get used to saying Senator Hillary.

I would like to have a meeting with someone from your office.

George W. Rogero
PO Box 340
Washingtonville, NY 10992

2. Maximum term of sentence. The  maximum  term  of  an  indeterminate sentence  shall  be  at least three years and the term shall be fixed as follows:

(d) For  a  class D felony, the term shall be fixed by the court, and shall not exceed seven years; and

4.   Alternative definite sentence for class D, E, and certain class C felonies.   When a person, other than  a  second  or  persistent  felony offender,  is sentenced for a class D or class E felony, or to a class C felony specified in article two hundred twenty or  article  two  hundred twenty-one, and the court, having regard to the nature and circumstances of the crime and to the history and character of the defendant, is of the opinion that a sentence of imprisonment is necessary but that it would be unduly harsh to impose an indeterminate or determinate sentence, the court may impose a definite sentence of imprisonment and fix a term of one year or less.

    Under Spitzer’s plan, members of the new coalition would agree to purchase firearms only from gun manufacturers who sign on to a new voluntary code of conduct. This code has three major principles:
 

• Mandatory design changes to make guns safer, including trigger locks, changes to make guns inoperable by young children, magazine safety disconnects, and chamber load indicators;
• Changes in distribution practices to ensure that manufacturers terminate relations with irresponsible dealers who sell too many guns that are later used in crimes; and
• An independent monitor, who would ensure that manufacturers adhere to the Code of Conduct, and report the results of its monitoring to the public.

Here's a quote from out wonderful Attorney General Elliot Spitzer.
 ''We have the capacity to squeeze manufacturers like a pincers and hurt  them in the marketplace.,'' said Democratic Attorney General Eliot Spitzer of New York. ''We are bigger than the NRA (National Rifle Association).''

N.Y. Mayor Supports Licensing System for Gun Owners
New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani, who is campaigning for U.S. Senate, said he
         supports a licensing system for firearms owners, the Associated Press reported March
         20.

         According to Giuliani, gun owners should be required to obtain licenses, similar to those
         required by motorists. He said those who want to own a gun should "have to pass a
         written exam that shows they know how to use the gun, that they're intelligent enough and
         responsible enough to handle a gun."

         Giuliani said his proposal would cover all dangerous weapons. His opponent in the
         Senate race, first lady Hillary Rodman Clinton, has proposed a licensing system for all
         handgun purchases.

Mar. 9, 2000, ROLL CALL (CLICK HERE FOR THE WHOLE ARTICLE)
   Gun Control Provisions Still in Limbo

   By John Bresnahan

   Despite a White House meeting this week designed to end the stalemate, GOP and Democratic leaders are no closer to ending a months-long deadlock over new gun control legislation.
   In fact, both sides seem relatively satisfied with keeping the logjam in place - despite a recent spate of high-profile
   shootings.
   "Both parties are better served if nothing gets done," said a senior House GOP aide. "In presidential politics, it may have
   some resonance, but Members of Congress have already defined themselves on this."
   Democrats claim that they want to end the impasse over juvenile justice legislation, which has been the subject of House-Senate talks since October 1999. But Republicans insist that the minority would rather have the stalemate as a political weapon.
   GOP leaders point to a recent incident between Reps. James Greenwood (R-Pa.) and Bobby Scott (D-Va.) as a sign that
   Democrats have no desire to reach a legislative compromise on the juvenile justice bill.
   Scott and Greenwood, both of whom have worked extensively on the legislation in committee, had discussed stripping the gun and cultural provisions from the conference report and then moving the proposal.
   According to Greenwood, Scott supported this effort, and suggested they move forward with it in the conference
   committee.
   But Greenwood wanted assurances from Scott that Democratic leaders would not attack Republicans if they pressed ahead with the plan, and requested that Scott check with his leadership.
   Following consultations with top House Democrats, Scott told Greenwood their plan was rejected.
   "He said, 'It went over my pay grade. It's not going to happen,'" Greenwood said of the reaction Scott received from party
   leaders.

    The NRA has reported that H. Rap Brown had a loaded 45 Cal. on him when he was served with an arrest warrant in 1995.  While the charges that he was arrested on were latter dropped, that still does not erase the fact that he was a felon in possession of a firearm.  He should have been in jail for 10 years.

    I am still trying to figure out what the implications are but S&W really screwed up.  I did have a meeting on 3/22/00 with the North East Sales Director, (or some title like that,) who said that the employees had no idea what was going to happen and that they were as upset about it as anyone.  (After the Supreme Court ruling that the FDA could not regulate tobacco they realized that they made a bad deal.)  I am sure that they are trying to find some way out of it.  S&W has spent Millions over the last few months on lawyers and the bosses in Britain called up and told the lawyers to make what ever deal that they had to to make the lawsuits go away.
    S&W now has the worse of both worlds.  GOA and others are calling for a BOYCOTT, (many people would do that anyway,) and the anti-gun people are saying that it is not a good deal because reproductions are exempt and the deal has other problems.
    One of the requirements are that the guns be child proof in 3 years.  When I asked what that meant the person said that a 6lb trigger pull is considered "Child Proof".  (The agreement states a 10lb trigger pull in DA mode.)  I asked him how many S&W 41s he thinks that they would sell with a 6 lb trigger.  He said that the planned to have target guns that would be covered under the requirement.

• 29 Cities & Counties and Three State Attorneys General Join with Clinton Administration to Form Communities for Safer Guns Coalition - 03/22/2000
• HUD Prefers Gun Purchases from Companies Adhering to Code of Conduct, Calls on Mayors To Unite in Preference for the Companies - 03/18/2000
• Clinton Administration and State and Local Governments Reach Breakthrough Gun Safety Agreement with Smith & Wesson - 03/17/2000
• (Not related but the one I liked: Vast Majority of Public Housing Residents Are Satisfied with Living Conditions - 03/21/2000)

    Not knowing anything about guns and to avoid reporting on what would be obvious as stupidity on the part of S&W, the following parts of the deal between HUD and S&W have been left out of the news reports.
 

• A purchaser can take home only one gun at the time of purchase and must wait two weeks to pick up additional guns. This is designed to prevent illegal traffickers from buying large quantities of guns.
• Within six months, packaging of new guns must include a warning on the risk of having a firearm in the home and suggestions for safe storage.
• Gun stores must have a security plan and guns and bullets must be kept locked and separated.
• Gun dealer employees must complete annual training and pass an exam.
• Establishment of a trust fund by Smith & Wesson to implement a public service campaign to inform people about the risk of firearms in the home, proper home storage, the importance of proper disposal and need to reduce gun violence.

"Guns manufactured and sold to the military and law enforcement agencies will be granted an exception to the safety features mandated by the new agreement, if the military or law enforcement agencies certify the need."

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