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I talked to a lawyer in the NY Senate and found out the following: PL 265.20 7-e. Possession and use of a pistol or revolver, at an indoor or outdoor pistol range located in or on premises owned or occupied by a duly incorporated organization organized for conservation purposes or to foster proficiency in small arms or at a target pistol shooting competition under the auspices of or approved by an association or organization described in paragraph 7-a(7-a. Possession and use, at an indoor or outdoor pistol range located in or on premises owned or occupied by a duly incorporated organization organized for conservation purposes or to foster proficiency in small arms o at a target pistol shooting competition under the auspices of or approved by the national rifle association for the purpose of loading and firing the same, by a person duly licensed to possess a pistol or revolver pursuant to section 400.00 or 400.01 of this chapter of a pistol or revolver duly so licensed to another person who is present at the time.)of this subdivision for the purpose of loading and firing the same by a person at least eighteen years of age but under the age of twenty-one who has not been previously convicted of a felony or serious offense, and who does not appear to be, or pose a threat to be, a danger to himself or to others; provided however, that such possession shall be of a pistol or revolver duly licensed to and shall be used under the immediate supervision, guidance and instruction of, a person specified in paragraph seven of this subdivision.(7. Possession, at an indoor or outdoor shooting range for the purpose of loading and firing, of a rifle or shotgun, the propelling force of which is gunpowder by a person under sixteen years of age but not under twelve, under the immediate supervision, guidance and instruction of (a) a duly commissioned officer of the United States army, navy, air force, marine corps or coast guard, or of the national guard of the state of New York; or (b) a duly qualified adult citizen of the United States who has been granted a certificate as an instructor in small arms practice issued by the United States army, navy, air force or marine corps, or by the adjutant general of this state, or by the national rifle association of America, a not-for-profit corporation duly organized under the laws of this state; or (c) a parent, guardian, or a person over the age of eighteen designated in writing by such parent or guardian who shall have a certificate of qualification in responsible hunting, including safety, ethics, and landowner relations-hunter relations, issued or honored by the department of environmental conservation; or (d) an agent of the department of environmental conservation appointed to conduct courses in responsible hunting practices pursuant to article eleven of the environmental conservation law.) |
#3 Defines Firearms as (a) any pistol or revolver.. #10 Defines "Licensing officer" means in the city of New York the police commissioner of that city... and also defines position for Nassau and part of Sufflok PL265.01 Criminalizes possession of a firearm PL 265.20 Exemptions Contains sections that exempts criminal possession of a firearm such as: 1.(a) Persons in the Military ... (b) Police officesr ... 3. Possession of a pistol or revolver by a person to whom a license therefor has been issued as provided under section 400.00 or 400.01 ... 7-a. Possession and use, at an indoor or outdoor pistol range located in or on premises owned or occupied by a duly incorporated organization organized for conservation purposes or to foster proficiency in small arms o at a target pistol shooting competition under the auspices of or approved by the national rifle association for the purpose of loading and firing the same, by a person duly licensed to possess a pistol or revolver pursuant to section 400.00 or 400.01 of this chapter of a pistol or revolver duly so licensed to another person who is present at the time. PL 265.20 7-e. Possession and use of a pistol or revolver, at an indoor or outdoor pistol range located in or on premises owned or occupied by a duly incorporated organization organized for conservation purposes or to foster proficiency in small arms or at a target pistol shooting competition under the auspices of or approved by an association or organization described in paragraph 7-a of this subdivision for the purpose of loading and firing the same by a person at least eighteen years of age but under the age of twenty-one who has not been previously convicted of a felony or serious offense, and who does not appear to be, or pose a threat to be, a danger to himself or to others; provided however, that such possession shall be of a pistol or revolver duly licensed to and shall be used under the immediate supervision, guidance and instruction of, a person specified in paragraph seven of this subdivision. |
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Subject:
Pataki's Symbolic Groundbreaking
Date sent: Tue.,
31 Oct. 2000 16:42:52 -0500
NYS Gov. Pataki was scheduled to attend
a groundbreaking of the I-84 / Drury Lane Interchange proj. at Stewart
Airport today. We also heard that he wasn't coming and that the Lieut.
Gov. was to attend. I can't verify either - we believe that they
didn't attend. We were there though to demonstrate/protest against this
unnecessary and costly project to the taxpayers of NYS. This project will
serve to destroy more than 1,200 acres of land that was taken from the
people of NYS in 1971 and intended for a Noise Buffer Zone. Now they want
to give it away for development. In the past no one bid on the property
when NYS offered it. Pataki keeps trying though. He has already given 2,400
acres (airport) away to a foreign company. I'll try to summarize
the events of the day, with those of you who are interested, along with
some of my personal comments. The protest was organized by SPARC.
Eleven proud citizen/protesters met
and carpooled to the airport. We all carried at least one or two signs
each. We were allowed to park in a special parking area approx. 1 mile
away from the ceremony. We then marched signs in hand to the area adjacent
to the groundbreaking. We had to stand in an area along a fence and roadway
between two barricades approx. 200
feet apart.
The symbolic groundbreaking site is
approx. 2 miles away from the Interchange proj. site. This may be one time
in history that a groundbreaking was held away from the project site. Probably
because they didn't want guests to see protesters.
Only special invited guests were permitted
to attend. From a distance we could see: Assembly Tom Kirwan; Town Council
Geo. Woolsey; NW Supervisor Geo. Meyer; Nbg. Mayor Mary Crabb; Nbg. Mgr.
Harry Porr; Business: Mike DiTullo,
John D'Ambrosio, Richard O'Beirne, et al; Sen.
Larkin.
There were many policemen on duty
for an event of this type, I believe too many. All of the policemen
were nice to us, professional and helpful. One even came to us before the
event down the road and guided us to our parking area.
Most of the media was there and they
interviewed us and took pictures - watch the local news later today and
tomorrow. Media-one TV, Cable 6 news, RNN News, THR, Hudson Valley News
et al.
The only incident of the day was that
Sandra Kissam SPARC Pres. ran into a protest sign that I was putting into
my truck. She is OK - just a little bump on the head.
We need to protest/demonstrate more
in the future - it is our 1st Amendment right........
...............Frank Carbone Jr.
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The adrenaline rush of fear overtook an emotional public forum and debate
on gun control presented last night by the Staten Island Civic Organization.
http://www.silive.com/news/advance/index.ssf?1114guns14.html
1220 WASINGTON AVE.
ALBANY, N.Y. 12226-2252
October 26, 2000
Dear Federal Firearms Licensed Dealer,
Effective November 1, 20(X), New York
State General business Law, section 396-ce, will require you to provide
a "gun locking device" with every rifle, firearm and shotgun which you
sell, deliver or transfer to another person. Section 396-ee will require
you to post, in the place where such rifles, shotguns or firearms are displayed
or transferred to the purchaser, a notice conspicuously stating in bold
print that: "The use of a locking device or safety lock is only one aspect
of responsible firearm storage. For increased safety firearms should be
stored unloaded and locked in a location that is both separate from their
ammunition and inaccessible to children and any other unauthorized person."
In addition, a label containing the quoted language must be either affixed
to such rifle, shotgun, or firearm, or placed in the container in which
it is sold, delivered, or transferred.
The same sections of law requires
the New York State Police to promulgate rules and regulations setting forth
the specific devices or the minimum standards and criteria therefore which
constitute an effective gun locking device. The State Police has consulted
with a variety of firearms manufactures, dealers and other industry experts
in order to minimize the impact of this new requirement on gun dealers
in New York State. Efforts were made to devise a set of standards that
would avoid the enumeration of physical specifications or the process of
rigorous testing. Enclosed please find a copy of New York State Police
Rule
17 entitled "Minimum Standards For Gun Locking Devices" which has been
promulgated to fulfill this requirement.
I am sure you will agree that these
new requirements will help to improve the safety of our children and homes.
Should you have any additional questions or concerns regarding this issue,
please contact the State Police at 518-457-1208 or consult our website
at www.troopers.state.ny.us.
Sincerely,
James W. McMahon Superintendent
CLICK HERE TO LINK TO: Rule 17 entitled "Minimum Standards For Gun Locking Devices"
It is now illegal for someone to buy a firearm if it is illegal for the person to own a firearm and "straw purchases" are illegal. (Da?)
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NY TIMES 11/14/00
Two states' overwhelming approval of ballot initiatives
last week to require background checks at weekend gun shows is prompting
advocates of gun control to predict that the incoming Congress might pass
legislation that creates a similar federal law.
Even gun-rights organizations like the National Rifle Association, which fought the efforts in both states, Colorado and Oregon, say the time might be right for a bipartisan agreement.
But despite passage in what both sides consider as "pro-gun" states, the success in getting any national law continues to hinge on how long it will take for the checks to be completed.
"It's clear that the votes indicate that in two relatively pro-gun states, a very large percentage of voters approve closing the gun-show loophole," said Michael Barnes, president of Handgun Control Inc., a private organization that works for gun- control laws. "Congress no longer has any excuse to block this kind of common-sense legislation."
Bill Powers, a spokesman for the National Rifle Association, said, "Hopefully, we can make some minor adjustments in the legislative process and resolve this once and for all."
The measures in Colorado and Oregon require buyers of guns from unlicensed dealers to pass the same kind of criminal background checks that federally licensed dealers are required to perform, and they bring to 11 the number of states in which all sales are now treated the same.
The Colorado measure passed with 69.9 percent approval. Oregon's passed with 62 percent. The initiatives won a place on the ballot in both states after Republican-controlled Legislatures refused to approve similar measures that the governors — Bill Owens, a Republican, in Colorado, and John Kitzhaber, a Democrat, in Oregon — had said they would sign into law.
The other states with similar laws are California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois, Maryland, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania and Rhode Island.
The problem with writing national legislation that reflects
the intent of the states is that states conduct their checks in different
ways and have waiting periods for completion of the sale that vary from
right away to, in New York's case, as long as six months. Efforts in Congress
last year to close the gun-show loophole failed after House and Senate
negotiators could not
agree on whether weekend buyers should have to wait as
long as three business days, which many Democrats and Handgun Control favored,
or just 24 hours, as many Republicans and the National Rifle Association
preferred.
Mr. Powers described the length of the waiting period as one of the minor adjustments that could be made to pass legislation. But Mr. Barnes said it remained the most critical component of any federal legislation because so many states, 34, depend upon the National Instant Check System for their background checks, and for weekend dealers who set up shop for only a day or two, the system is not very instant at all.
Colorado, Oregon and 14 other states use state law enforcement agencies for their background checks, a procedure that officials on both sides of the debate prefer to the national system because state agencies have easier and faster access to the local police and court records that would stop a sale. States' checks often clear purchases the same day the prospective buyer wants a gun. Neither measure approved last week included a time limit for background checks.
Both Handgun Control and the National Rifle Association agree that if all states had the apparatus to conduct background checks, as Colorado and Oregon do, passing federal legislation would be much simpler.
But for now, the states represent a hodge-podge of regulations,
including some, like those in Minnesota, that require background checks
at weekend shows for handguns and assault weapons but no check of someone
who buys a
shotgun.
Here in Colorado, the issue has been especially emotional because the thrust for closing the loophole came directly out of the 1999 shootings at Columbine High School. All four weapons used by the two teenage killers had been bought at gun shows without background checks. Robyn Anderson, an 18-year-old friend of the killers, bought three of the guns, a semiautomatic rifle and two sawed-off shotguns. Another friend, Mark Manes, bought the fourth gun, a TEC-DC9 assault pistol, and later sold it to the killers.
Mr. Manes was later sentenced to six years in prison. Ms. Anderson was not prosecuted because at the time no law prevented her from buying the "long guns" from an unlicensed dealer.
An effort to change regulations that would have required Ms. Anderson to submit to a background check was part of a package of gun measures Governor Owens supported in the legislative session that followed the Columbine shootings. The effort failed by a single vote in committee. Ms. Anderson told officials that if she had had to submit to a background check, she would not have bought the guns.
Later, a grass-roots organization formed to collect signatures to put the matter of background checks before the public as a ballot initiative. Local gun-rights groups, backed by $500,000 from the National Rifle Association, strongly opposed the measure.
The Oregon measure reached voters as a ballot initiative after traveling a similar path. It gained impetus as a bill in the Legislature after a school shooting in Springfield, Ore., but failed by a single vote in the State Senate.
After it became apparent that the two ballot initiatives were going to pass, lawmakers from other states, including Arizona and Washington, contacted Handgun Control, seeking help with writing bills that would resemble the initiatives in Colorado and Oregon. And Mr. Barnes said he had been contacted by several Democratic and Republican senators who told him they would like to introduce gun-show legislation in the next Congress.
Whether the next president would support such an effort
remains to be seen.
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HERE TO LINK TO THE ARTICLE: http://www.nytimes.com/2000/11/15/national/15GUNS.html
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