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NYSRPA-ALERTS
by Jacob J. Rieper, Legislative Director New York State Rifle & Pistol Association
   

CoBIS or Gun "DNA" Watch
Total guns registered in NY as of 5/1/04 = 68,691
Number of guns linked to a crime = 0
Money Spent = $13,000,000 +?
17% of the guns have to be taken to the lab to be shot

Total guns registered in NY as of 6/1/04 = 73,044
A increase of 4,353 from last month.
(Only 53,801 of the total are actually imaged and in the computer system.)
Number of guns linked to a crime = 0
Money Spent = $13,333,333 +?

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ORANGE COUNTY NEWS

DAVIS SHOOTING SPORTS TO OPEN IN GOSHEN SOON DAVIS SHOOTING SPORTS TO OPEN IN GOSHEN SOON

     Davis Sport Shop from Sloatsburg, NY bought Knight's old range outside of Goshen. He has been working on it and it is all ready to go. The only hold up has been the required paperwork. All of the paperwork should be finished soon and he plans to open up between June 28th and July 5th. Call 651-7000 for more info.

Court orders government agencies to pay SPARC for paperwork Court orders government agencies to pay SPARC for paperwork
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     It cost the Stewart Park and Reserve Coalition over $10,000 in photocopying costs to provide documents to argue their court challenge to the state and federal governments' efforts to build a new entrance road network into Stewart Airport . The state and federal agencies must now pick up the tab following a court decision.
     The SPARC coalition's attorney, John Caffrey, sought to have the state Department of Transportation and Thruway Authority and the Federal Highway Administration pick up the tab for the documents since they wanted to expedite the case before the Second Circuit Court of Appeals.
     SPARC President Sandra Kissam said printing all of the documents was costly. “In a way you can say that these extreme costs were due to the fact that the state and federal agencies that are the defendants in this case wanted things to be rushed out,” she said. “Now they have to reimburse us for this money that we raised and spent.”
     SPARC and its co-plaintiffs, the Sierra Club and the Orange County Federation of Sportsmen's Clubs, are seeking to block the new entrance from being built along Drury Lane , contending airport activity does not warrant it and that it will disturb natural forestland that has become recreational over the years.
     The court agreed with SPARC's ascertain and now the consortium of government agencies is conducting a federal review of the lands and the proposed route for the roadway.


NEW YORK STATE NEWS

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     Our own Howard Mills was a guest on SCOPE's The 2nd Amendment Radio Show on 6/17/04 and did a great job. He was well received and the guys really liked what he had to say about his run gor the Senate against UpChuck Schumer. Howard Mills is one of the few people who have an "A" or higher rating from the NRA, SCOPE and the NY State Rifle and Pistol Association. It is too late to download the archived show but you can tune in the show any time by visiting their web site. Howard was invited back and will return every few weeks.

Pistol permit service faulted Pistol permit service faulted
By STEVE LIEBERMAN, THE JOURNAL NEWS, 6/19/04
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     Albert Alexander heard it wasn't easy to get a gun permit, so he paid a Long Island-based pistol permit license service $450 to help him through the process.
      An Edelman's Pistol Permit Service salesman told him in January that gun permits were difficult to get in Rockland, but added that the company knew the possible pitfalls and guaranteed success if the application were filled out correctly, Alexander said.
      The salesman said the company would do all the work.
      The 35-year-old West Nyack car repair shop owner said he soon learned that little of the sales pitch was true.
      The company, he said, didn't have a gun permit application form for Rockland and told him to get one from the county police headquarters. Rockland doesn't have a county police department, so Alexander asked around and found out that the County Clerk's Office had the $10 applications.
      Alexander said he filled out all the paperwork and got his fingerprints and photographs taken for a total of $134. He asked Edelman's for a refund. The company refused. Alexander's credit card company has the charge on hold until the dispute is resolved.
      A County Court judge approved Alexander for a target shooting permit in May.
      "Edelman's misled me to believe they would do all the work," Alexander said. "Here I am getting them the original application, which they don't have. They tell you there are 40 different ways you can be turned down if you don't fill out the application properly. I did all the footwork. ... I was paying $450 for them to type the application."
      A handful of other Edelman clients in Rockland and Westchester voiced similar complaints.
      The Better Business Bureau of New York rated the business as unsatisfactory in responding to consumer complaints within the past year. The state Attorney General's Office received one complaint from a Westchester resident, but classified it as a potential private legal action.
      Police officers and officials who handle pistol permits say Edelman's work sometimes is sloppy.
      Edelman's president, Robert Ishkanian, vehemently denied that his salespeople misled clients or promised them they could receive a permit to carry a gun, a right mostly reserved for law enforcement officers.
      Edelman's contract states the client must provide all documentation, he said, and those denied gun permits usually are rejected because they didn't provide all necessary information. He said his company issued refunds if shown proof that a permit was denied.
      Ishkanian wouldn't comment on the Better Business Bureau's rating, except to say the organization had no standing. He said his company's fee not only included preparing the application based on a client's documentation, but also a year's free membership at its shooting ranges on Long Island, a handgun safety course, discounts on the purchase of guns and other equipment and National Rifle Association membership.
      "We bend over backwards to make our customers happy," he said. "If we make a mistake, we correct the mistake. When we can't make them happy, our contention is no one can make them happy."
      Ishkanian compared his company's services to an accountant preparing tax returns.
      "This is exactly what every accountant does throughout the country," Ishkanian said. "You bring them the paperwork. The accountant prepares the paperwork for the IRS. We're the intermediary. You can do your own taxes for free, too."
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NATIONAL

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     NRA News, a live streaming online news show, has ended it's first month on the web and is providing a valuable service in getting out the news that you will not read in your local paper, hear on your local radio or see on Host Cam Edwardsyour TV. With Cam Edwards as host and Jeff Johnson as Senior Correspondent, you will find the three hour program informative and interesting. It is great to finally have a place to go that covers Second Amendment issues using facts rather than emotions and truth rather than lies. The program runs from 2 PM to 5 PM EST and you can call in at 866-672-6397 or use send them an instant message. If you miss the program, fear not. You can always log on and view the last program in streaming format. (Shockwave Player program is needed.)
      NRA News greatly expands the scope of the information that the NRA can make available to NRA members and the general public. With the additional time and resources, they are able to highlight events and news items related to our rights and to praise and support those who act to protect our rights. They also have the time to expose the lies and exaggerate of those who want to take our rights away.
     Resent shows featured ranting's from the speakers at the recent MMM showing clearly that most attendees are not interested in "reasonable gun laws," but really support banning all guns and any new law that they can get passed is just another step down that road. Unlike the regular press, NRA News had the time and the ability to interview members of the Second Amendment Sisters and you could learn why so many women support our right of self defense. Other types of topics will be proposed laws, both good and bad, on the federal, state and local level, "good guy" stories of people who were able to defend them self or others, factual gun related stories and exposing "Junk Science" stories presented by anti-gunners. A recent segment featured NY SCOPE's own President Ken Mathison and SCOPE's law suite against Gov. Mario Pataki's CoBIS or "Gun DNA" program.
     NRA News replaces NRA live, the NRA's first web streaming program that was hosted by Ginny Simone. NRA Live was a great service and program that provided a short news story each day that you could view at any time. Ginny Simone will also contribute to the new show and many special reports that she has produced are available in the Archive section of NRA News.

UPDATE
You can hear Cam and Company on Sirius Satellite Radio Channel 126 from 2-5 p.m. EST, and a replay of the show on Sirius Talk Right from 6-9 a.m. EST.

Don't or Can't be tied down to your computer for 3 hours to see the show?

C. Crane FM Transmitter     I have my computer plugged into a FM Transmitter made by C. Crane Company. It cost about $70, ( you can get an orpan for about $10 less,) but I can plug it into my computer and then send streaming audio to my pocket radio. (Sangean DT-110 Digital AM/FM Pocket Radio for $50, (it turns off automatically after 1 1/2 hours,) also available at C. Crane Company, or a Sony SRF-M37V Sony SRF-M37V available for $30.)
     The range of the Transmitter is not great but it is good enough to cover most of a house. (If you call the company they can tell you how to extend the range a little.) You can set the FM transmitter to any FM frequency between 88-108 MHz.so you can avoid interference from a local station. I can be doing the dishes, cutting the grass or reloading and not miss a moment of the show.
     UPDATE 7/06: The DT-110, (uses two AAAs,) is not on their website but you can still do a google search and find it. Sangean has several new radios that look like they are about the same size like the DT120V that looks like the replacement to the DT-110 and they have several others like the DT-180V that also has TV audio (channels 2-13). For some reason SANGEAN does not have all of their pocket radios on their website.

 

 

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