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MUSEUM VILLAGE CIVIL WAR WEEKEND
SEPT. 1 & 2
    Hundreds of historical re-enactors in full costume bring the Civil War to life at this museum set up as a 19th century Hudson Valley Village.  Both days feature a carefully choreographed "live battle re-enactment" between the Blue and the Gray.  You will have a great time and they have Civil War vendors set up to sell related items.  If you want to look at different Black Powder guns from kits to custom made guns this is a must see.  They normally have some cannon fire and horses.  The kids will get a kick out of the bands playing period music with period instruments.
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2ND ANNUAL SPORTSMAN'S EXTRAVAGANZA at Shawangunk Fish & Game Club
    I spent a few hours at the Shawangunk Club and had a good time.  They had fishing and several kinds of shooting events.  Kids had a good time shooting and I nicked a golf ball at about 25 yards with a black powder rifle.
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New York AG Law Suit Against Handgun Makers Dismissed

By Daniel Wise
New York Law Journal
August 15, 2001
    The State Attorney General's novel lawsuit to find the gun industry liable under a nuisance theory must be dismissed, an acting State Supreme Court justice in Manhattan has ruled.
    There is too tenuous a connection between the way handguns are marketed in New York and the more than 1,000 accidental and crime-related deaths involving the weapons each year to support an industry-wide finding of liability, Justice Louis B. York ruled Friday in People v. Sturm, Ruger & Company, 00-402586.
    Juanita Scarlett, a spokeswomen for Attorney General Eliot Spitzer, described Mr. Spitzer as "dismayed" by the decision, and vowed to appeal it because the gun industry has "clearly contributed to a flood of illegal guns into New York."
    New York State filed the lawsuit in June 2000 against eight major gun manufacturers and a dozen wholesalers operating in the State in the hopes of imposing reforms on the industry to abate the alleged "public nuisance" they had caused.
    Those reforms would have been similar to those that only Smith & Wesson among the nation's major gun makers has agreed to accept. Included in those measures the State was urging are limiting retailers' sales to one gun per customer per day, and monitoring sales to determine which retailers' and wholesalers' guns disproportionately end up used in crimes.
    New York is the only state to date to have sued the gun industry, but at least 32 municipalities have filed similar suits, according to an industry source.
    According to Justice York's opinion, the nuisance theory has received a mixed reception so far, with eight courts rejecting the theory and three adopting it.
    The crux of the State Attorney General's argument was that the gun industry continues to market guns in a manner that makes them likely to end up in the hand of criminals. Specifically, the Attorney General's Office contended that because of studies performed by the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms tracing weapons recovered from crimes, manufacturers are aware of the qualities in a gun most likely to appeal to criminals and those suppliers whose weapons most often are used in crimes.
    Justice York rejected those argument, finding too many gaps in the tracing process. The federal agency's studies, he wrote, "cannot as yet pinpoint how guns used in crimes came into the possession of the perpetrators."
    Some guns, he wrote, may have fallen in to the hands of criminals because of "irresponsible conduct" by those involved in the chain of sale - manufacturers, wholesalers and retailers, all of whom are licensed by the federal government. But criminals could have gained access to an unknown quantity of guns through no fault of the industry, he noted. For example, guns could have been stolen or legitimately purchased by "straw" buyers, who intended to resell the guns to criminals.

Remote Connection
    Given the remote connection between the marketing of guns and a crime, Justice York wrote, the court's approval of a nuisance theory would have the unwanted "effect of preventing defendants from engaging in activities, i.e., the manufacture and sale of guns, that they are permitted to engage in by law in an area which is strongly controlled by various federal and state statutes."
    As recently as this April, Justice York also pointed out, the New York Court of Appeals, in Hamilton v. Beretta U.S.A. Co., 96 NY2d 222, rejected a closely related theory that sought to impose industrywide liability on a "negligent marketing" theory.
Assistant Attorney General Natalie M. Gomez-Velez represented the State.
David R. Gross, of Budd Larner Gross Rosenbaum Greenberg & Sade, represented RSR, Ellett Brothers, Acusport Corp., MKS Supply Inc. and Southern Ohio Distributors.
Christopher Renzulli, of Renzulli & Rutherford, represented Glock Inc. and Highpoint Firearms. Warren S. Coster, of Callan, Regenstreich, Koster & Brady, represented Scott Wholesale Co.
Date Received: August 14, 2001

CLICK HERE TO READ Sturm, Ruger & Company's PRESS RELEASE

UPDATE: 8/20/00
    I called the AG's office, (518-474-7330), and talked to the Press Office.  They said that they had not decided if they were going to contest the ruling and that it is possible that they might have talks with the gun companies.  (I talked to one of the gun makers and they said that they had no plans to hold talks and they had no reason to because they won their case.)
    I called the AG's office back and ended up talking with Peter in the Public Information office and he really sounded like he was upset that I was asking about it.  Peter said that no decision has been made on what they will do but appealing the decision and having talks with the gun makers are possibilities.

Nassau Pistol License Web Page
- Get Information on how to get a pistol license in Nassau.  Includes directions, laws, and images of all forms.  Links to local and statewide gun resources.  Know the facts before you go!
    Michael B. Justice has just put a new web page on line with information for those who live in Nassau County.  He has covered everything that you need to know about getting a handgun license in Nassau and has downloaded all of the forms and handbooks.  He will be adding more information as soon as he can.  It is a very good site and even if you do not live in Nassau County it is worth the look to see what they have to put up with.
CLICK HERE TO LINK TO THE NASSAU PISTOL LICENSE WEB PAGE

NYC makes major changes to Handgun License rules and fees
    New York City made some major changes to the handgun license rules effective June 30th.  They raised the fee for a license from $170 to $255 but they increased the license from 2 years to 3 years so the fee is still $85 a year.  They also changed the types of licenses.  They dropped the target license and replaced it with a redesigned "PREMISES LICENSE".  In the past the Premises License only allowed you to keep a loaded gun at home or in a business and you were very limited in when you could take the gun to a range.  They also required anyone with a Target License to be a member of a range.  According to what I was told when I called them, a premise license now allows you to take a gun to the range any time that you want to, you do not have to belong to an approved range and you can keep the gun loaded at home.  (I think that  would be considered an improvement.)  However you still can not have a combined license for Residence AND Business so you will have to have two guns and pay the fees for two licenses.
    One additional change was if you had a license from another county and wanted to take your gun into NYC, in the past,  you were required to get a target license.  Now however, because they do not have a target license anymore, they have no way to validate your license so that you can carry your gun into NYC to target shoot.
    From the NYC web site:
PREMISES LICENSE: IS A RESTRICTED TYPE OF LICENSE. It is issued for your RESIDENCE or
BUSINESS. The Licensee may possess a handgun ONLY on the premises of the address indicated on the front of the
license. Licensees may also transport their handguns and ammunition in SEPARATE LOCKED CONTAINERS,
DIRECTLY to and from an authorized range, or hunting location. HANDGUNS MUST BE UNLOADED WHEN
TRANSPORTING.
CLICK HERE TO LINK NYC LINKS

License fees stay the same
    License fees will stay the same for the coming year despite the call for more money and the willingness of most of the sportsmen to pay the extra fees.  The main objection is that the state has not provided a proper accounting of where the money is going.  Let us hope that no major program or personal reductions will occur.  One of the major fears is that if we allow the hunting and fishing programs to be funded from the general fund, the anti-gun, anti-hunting, anti-trapping, and ant-fishing groups will try to have a say in how the programs are run and what the rules are.
CLICK HERE TO SEE A SYRACUSE ARTICLE

Mayor Giuliani says gun seizures aided in lower crime rates
    With all of the calls to pass more gun laws to reduce crime it is informative to look and see what is happening where they already have passed all of the laws that you could think of, NY city.  How did they reduce gun crime?  By doing what we have been saying all along, arresting criminals with guns.  From the Mayor's Press Release:
    Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani and Police Commissioner Bernard B. Kerik today announced that more than 3,000 guns taken off New York City streets will soon be turned into scrap metal. The New York Police Department recovered the guns over the last several months through a number of channels and the total includes guns that were used in the commission of crimes. The guns will be transported to an undisclosed location, where they will be smelted and the metal recycled. NYPD personnel will monitor every aspect of the entire process, until every gun has been destroyed.

"The Police Department's dramatic success in reducing crime is due in large part to its corresponding success in removing guns from City streets," the Mayor said. "More than 90,000 guns have been seized since 1994, and shootings have  pummeled more than 74 percent. The NYPD's gun seizure success is also reflected in the murder rate, which has plummeted 65 percent since 1994, and is down another 11 percent this year over last year. The NYPD has also ensured that thousands of guns can never be used to commit a crime by destroying them and putting the metal to good use. Now, another 3,000 guns have been taken out of circulation -- permanently."

Police Commissioner Kerik said, "The destruction of these firearms is a very tangible reminder of the intensive efforts undertaken by the NYPD and the City to remove guns from our streets. Every gun taken out of circulation is one less gun that can be used to shoot an innocent citizen, gun down a hero cop, or carelessly end up in the hands of a child."

Including the guns to be destroyed following today's announcement, more than 7,371 guns will have been smelted this year to
date. In 2000, the Police Department sent 8,278 guns to be smelted and turned into scrap metal.


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Cal. Court Rules for gun makers
    In a 72 page decision the California court closed by saying: "But, in section 1714.4, the Legislature has set California's public policy regarding a gun manufacturer's liability under these circumstances. Given that public policy, plaintiffs may not proceed with their negligence claim."
Selected sections from the decision
    As we have explained, in the trial court, Navegar argued in effect that the 
Legislature, through section 1714.4, established an exception that applies in this 
case. Section 1714.4 provides: “(a) In a products liability action, no firearm or 
ammunition shall be deemed defective in design on the basis that the benefits of the 
product do not outweigh the risk of injury posed by its potential to cause serious 
injury, damage, or death when discharged. [¶] (b) For purposes of this section: [¶] 
(1) The potential of a firearm or ammunition to cause serious injury, damage, or 
death when discharged does not make the product defective in design. [¶] (2) 
Injuries or damages resulting from the discharge of a firearm or ammunition are 
not proximately caused by its potential to cause serious injury, damage, or death, 
but are proximately caused by the actual discharge of the product. [¶] (c) This 
section shall not affect a products liability cause of action based upon the improper 
selection of design alternatives. [¶] (d) This section is declaratory of existing law.” 
Navegar argues that this statute, by establishing a state policy of exempting 
manufacturers of legal, nondefective firearms “from liability for their criminal 
use,” bars plaintiffs’ negligence claim. 
    Plaintiffs respond that section 1714.4 “has no application to this case 
because it is not a product[s] liability action.” Plaintiffs assert that they “seek to 
hold Navegar liable for its negligent conduct, not for making a defective product,” 
and that they “make no assertion that Navegar should be liable because the risks 
posed by the TEC-9 outweigh its benefits.” More specifically, plaintiffs assert 
Navegar is liable because of the TEC-9/DC9’s “negligent design, distribution, and 
marketing,” or, as plaintiffs alternatively state, because Navegar “negligently 
designed, distributed, and marketed” the weapon. 
...
    Under these principles, we reject plaintiffs’ argument that section 1714.4 is 
inapplicable because this case “is not a product[s] liability action.” As noted, the 
basis of their argument, which the dissent essentially adopts (see dis. opn. of 
Werdegar, J., post, at pp. 2, 30-35), is that they seek to hold Navegar liable for 
“negligent conduct, not for making a defective product,” and that they “make no 
assertion that Navegar should be liable because the risks posed by the TEC-9 
outweigh its benefits.” However, that plaintiffs rely on “negligent conduct” is not 
determinative; as we have explained, a plaintiff may, in fact, premise a “products 
liability case” on the “negligence of the defendant.” (Jiminez, supra, 4 Cal.3d at p. 
383.) As our discussion also demonstrates, in asserting that the TEC-9/DC9 had a 
“negligent design” and that Navegar “negligently designed” it, plaintiffs have in 
fact alleged that the TEC-9/DC9 is, in the words of section 1714.4, subdivision (a), 
“defective in design.” 
...
    Moreover, contrary to the assertion of plaintiffs and the dissent (see dis. 
opn. of Werdegar, J., post, at p. 32), the record demonstrates that plaintiffs do, in 
fact, seek to hold Navegar liable precisely because, as the trial court stated, the 
TEC-9/DC9’s “potential for harm substantially outweighs any possible benefit to 
be derived from [it].”
    This ruling along with the ruling by the NY State court is really a big blow for all of the lawsuits against the gun makers.  You can tell by the way both decisions were written that the judges really did not want to rule the way that they did but that they had very little choice.  HCI, (AKA Brady Campaign,) is very upset and guess who they blame?  From the BCTPGV Press release "The blame should be placed on leaders of the National Rifle Association and the California legislators who did their bidding and gave the gun industry immunity from liability enjoyed by no other industry."
CLICK HERE FOR THE DECISION
    And it comes as no big  surprise that:  8/7/01- The American Bar Association on Tuesday passed a resolution opposing state and federal legislation that would protect the firearms industry from civil lawsuits. CLICK HERE FOR THE WHOLE ARTICLE

Unions Don't Cite Political Funds To IRS
    It turns out that while the NRA was being audited, the Unions were failing to list ANY of the political donations that they were making to the anti-gunners in the Democratic party.
    "The Internal Revenue Code requires unions to list any direct or indirect expense "intended to influence the selection, nomination, election or appointment of anyone to a federal, state or local public office.""
    "For instance, a document laying out 1996 Democratic activities in North Carolina to be approved and partly funded by
   unions stated a clear mission: "We seek to: re-elect President Bill Clinton, re-elect Gov. Jim Hunt, elect Harvey Gantt to
   the Senate ... win back at least two seats if not the majority in our state's congressional delegation." Clinton, Hunt and
   Gantt are all Democrats"
CLICK HERE FOR THE WHOLE ARTICLE

Rosie O is back in the news.
    One wonders if the news from Rosie O'Donnell means that she will never be able to own a firearm or long gun.  She admits to having to be treated for depression and has been on medication for two years and that it runs in her family.  Among the quotes:
    "I am one of the haunted. I think I have been depressed for years. It runs in my family, along with alcoholism and an absurd ability to deny the obvious."
    "The gloom was becoming constant. The gray was winning. Sure, I had moments of joy, I fell in and out of love. I had happy days and career success, but the dark cloud that arrived in my childhood did not leave until I was 37 and started taking medication."
   " My depression slowly faded away. I have been on medication for two years now.  I may be on it forever."
This is the web address if you want to read the whole article.
http://www.rosiemagazine.com/causes/9_rosie.html
CLICK HERE FOR A NY POST ARTICLE
    I think that it is easy to say that no one thinks that someone who is suffering from serious depression should own a firearm.  Rosie is also an example of someone who has an irrational fear of firearms based on mental illness.

Multistate gun agreement effective Wednesday
 The Associated Press 7/31/01 6:47 PM
    MONTGOMERY, Ala. (AP) -- A law that goes into effect Wednesday allows Alabama residents to legally carry their guns in eight other states on the same pistol permit.
    Residents of the states that have entered the agreement also will be allowed to carry their guns in Alabama using their state's pistol permit.
    States that have agreed to recognize one anther's handgun permits for visiting citizens are Florida, Mississippi, Idaho, Indiana, Kentucky, Michigan, North Dakota and Wyoming, said Attorney General Bill Pryor.
    "We are pleased to work together with these states to protect the rights of our law-abiding citizens to carry handguns for self-defense when they have proper permits," Pryor said in a news release.
    While in Alabama, out-of-state visitors must follow the same laws that in-state residents follow. Alabama residents must conform to other states' laws when they travel.
    Too bad that we live in NY state!

U.S. House Rejects Attack on Ashcroft & Privacy of Gun Buyers

    In a bipartisan vote of 268-161, the U.S. House of Representatives defeated an attempt by anti-gun Representative Jim Moran (D-Va.)—joined by gun-ban extremists Reps. Carolyn McCarthy (D-N.Y.) and Henry Waxman (D-Calif.)—to invade the privacy rights of law-abiding gun owners. Moran introduced an amendment that sought to give the FBI authority to retain records of law-abiding gun purchasers for at least 90 days, a policy the Clinton/Reno Department of Justice (DOJ) had attempted to make permanent with a last-minute regulation. Fortunately, Attorney General John Ashcroft’s recent proposal to reform and improve the operation of the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) included a call to slash the amount of time allowed to keep records on law-abiding citizens that are generated by NICS to less than one day.
    NRA-ILA Executive Director James Jay Baker said, "On behalf of the NRA’s more than 4.4 million members, I am pleased to see that the U.S. House voted in support of maintaining the privacy of our citizens. While the Attorney General’s proposal is an effort to protect the rights of law-abiding citizens, Rep. Moran’s intentions were to further restrict those rights.... Our members are very pleased with the outcome of the bipartisan, overwhelming defeat of the Moran amendment."
    Take the time to thank those U.S. Representatives who voted against the Moran amendment, and protected the privacy of law-abiding gun owners. And if your Representative voted against privacy and for the Moran amendment, be sure to voice your objection. To find out how your U.S. Representative voted on the Moran amendment, you can call the NRA-ILA Grassroots Division at -800-392-8683. For those on the Internet, you can go to the U.S. House web site.

Hinchey voted against us, Gilman and Kelly voted with us.


HUD ends $15 million gun buy back program
    From a NY Sportsmen Alert, 7/23/01, in part:
    HUD officials said that while funding for the program was being eliminated, individual housing authorities could still run buyback programs with their own money if they chose to.
    "This is clearly not part of the core mission of HUD," spokeswoman Nancy Segerdahl said Monday. She said HUD was focusing on affordable housing and was no longer participating in the Communities for Safer Guns Coalition begun by Cuomo.
    Officials at HUD said funding for the buyback program was cut because the program could make no guarantees that it was decreasing the supply of guns to criminals or that lawbreakers were surrendering their weapons. HUD said buybacks remove only 1 to 2 percent of guns from the streets.
    HUD also said that public housing authorities have shown little interest in making use of the program. Only 100 of the 1,000 housing authorities were participating, they said.

Zogby Poll
In July Zogby Online poll contained 3 questions related to firearms.
  •  If someone were breaking into your home would you call your next-door neighbor who owns a firearm or would you call 911?

  • Call next-door neighbor, Call 911, Not sure
  • If a law-abiding citizen owns a shotgun for hunting, sporting competitions, or for self-protection should that person be required to register their shotgun?

  • Yes,  No,  Not sure
  • There are approximately 700,000 doctors in the United States. According to a National Academy of Sciences study, 98,000 patients die each year in this country due to medical accidents. There are 200 million guns in America - 70 million of which are handguns. According the Center for Disease Control, about 1000 Americans die from gun accidents. The new president of the American Medical Association believes it is more important to police gun deaths than medical deaths due to physician error. Do you agree or disagree with the AMA President?

  • Agree, Disagree, Not sure
        I will let you know how they turn out when I find out.  You have to register to be sent the online Zogby Polls.  They only take a few moments to fill out and you can have an impact.
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    Living by the Gun, Predictions of increased violence won't pan out
        Every time a new state law is passed permitting trained, law-abiding residents to carry concealed handguns for their protection the anti-gunners say that the streets will flow with blood and the state will be turned into "Dodge City".  It has never happened and JOHN R. LOTT JR. has written another article with the numbers to prove it.
        Start with Florida. Between 1987, when Florida's concealed carry law took effect, and May 31 of this year, 777,268 licenses were issued. Only 142 were revoked because of any type of firearms related violation. That's two-hundredths of 1 percent. But even this overstates the risks. While a precise breakdown is not available, almost all of these cases apparently resulted from people accidentally carrying a gun into a restricted area, such as an airport. No one claims that these unintentional violations posed any harm.
        From January 1996 through May 2000, the first 5 1/2 years that Texas' concealed handgun law was in effect, about 250,000 people were licensed. Only 178 have been convicted of any type of felony. That's seven-hundredths of 1 percent. Few of these crimes have anything to do with a gun.
     In Virginia, "not a single concealed-carry permit holder has committed a violent crime," according to the Richmond Times-Dispatch. After Nevada's first year, "law enforcement officials throughout the state could not document one case of a fatality that resulted from irresponsible gun use by someone who obtained a permit under the new law," reported the Las Vegas Review-Journal.
        National surveys of police show they support concealed handgun laws 3-1. ... Glenn White, president of the Dallas Police Association, provides a typical response: "I lobbied against the law in 1993 and 1995 because I thought it would lead to wholesale armed conflict. That hasn't happened.... I think it's worked out well, and that says good things about the citizens who have permits.
    CLICK HERE FOR THE WHOLE ARTICLE

    Ashcroft on gun rights
    by Joseph Farah, © 2001 WorldNetDaily.com
        This is a good article that you might want to read.  In part:
        "In the United States, they came first for the Uzis, but I didn't speak up because I didn't own an Uzi. Then they came for the AK-47s, and I didn't speak up because I didn't own an AK-47.  Then they came for all the semiautomatic weapons, and I didn't speak up because I didn't own a semiautomatic weapon. Then they came for the handguns, but I didn't speak up because I owned a shotgun. Then they came for my gun, and by that time no one was left to speak up."
        "The Second Amendment is not about the right to hunt deer. It's about the right of the people to defend themselves from government, to hold government accountable – at the point of a gun, if necessary."
    CLICK HERE TO LINK TO THE WHOLE ARTICLE

    Daschle & Kennedy Call for Abolition of Bathtubs
        In the wake of the tragic and horrifying drowning of five children by their mother Andrea Yates in the bathtub of their Houston home, Democratic Senators Tom Daschle and Ted Kennedy have called for making home bath tubs illegal. "How many children have to die before we accept the fact that bath tubs are a major cause of death in the home," Kennedy said. He cited Consumer Product Safety Commission data which confirms that bathtubs are now one of the 5 leading causes of home accidental deaths.
    CLICK HERE FOR THE WHOLE ARTICLE


     
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