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ALERT: NRA ELECTIONS Your NRA magazine for March
contains the ballot for the 2006 NRA Directors. It is important that you
fill it out and mail it in this year! The ballot must be received by the
NRA by April 30th so you have plenty of time.
CLICK HERE TO SEE AN ARTICLE AT THE ARMS & THE LAW BLOG VOTE - VOTE - VOTE - VOTE - VOTE - VOTE |
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PROPOSED NEW LAWS THREATEN ALL N.Y. GUN OWNERS NY has some of the most repressive
gun laws of any state including an Assault Weapons Ban and registration
of all handguns but that is not good enough for anti-gun Sheldon
Silver, and anti-gun rights groups. Several bills, some written
by gun haters from Washington D. C. and California, have passed
the NY Assembly that would have a severe impact on gun owners and
close all gun stores in NY. A big thanks to Mike Kubow, Chairman of
the Orange County Chapter of SCOPE |
It is important that other
people write in support of our article or send in letters to their local
paper. The Chiefs who signed the petition should be focused on for signing
onto bills that they did not know anything about and that they are supporting
Sheldon Silver who does not support the police. We should demand that
they request that their name be removed from the petition list and bring
this up to every elected officials that you can find.
One person did call to say that NY City
handgun licenses are valid across the state. THIS IS NOT TRUE.
NY City only issues premise licenses. The following is from a letter that
I got from the NY City Police Department: "... a premise license
issued by the New York City Police Department is limited as to place of
possession, and therefore would not be valid outside the licensed premises.
... New York City Police Department no longer issues target licenses ..."
For more information and a full copy of the letter go to my December 2002
newsletter.
http://www.ocshooters.com/newsletters/02/12.htm#nyc
Please put together a "Letter To The
Editor" in support of our letter and go to my website, OCShooters.com
for more information. http://www.ocshooters.com/newsletters/06/01.htm#assembly
Check http://www.ocshooters.com/newsletters/05/06.htm#nyagbawb
to see if your local Chief signed the petition that NYAGV sent out. Again,
NYAGV's petition did not contain any information about the true impact
of the bill and when I asked, NYAGV said that it was up to each Chief
to look up the bill and find out what was in it. I have called several
of the people who signed the bill and have yet to find one who knew anything
about the details of the bill. (Jackie Kuhls, head of NYAGV characterized
my wanting to question the Chiefs who signed the petition without knowing
what they were supporting as "harassment" when I talked to her.)
I will update my website with a special report next week.
As we attempt to get information out, we
are limited by space that they will publish and you can bring up additional
points that we could not cover. I have some suggestions but feel free
to do what ever you want. We cannot do anything to prevent these bills
from passing the NY Assembly but we can contact the local Chiefs and let
them know that we know when they add their support to laws that will take
our rights away. Please contact your local Chief and if they signed the
petition ask them to take their name off and contact your local Mayor
or any other local official. If you Chief did not sign the Petition please
still contact them and let them know not to sign the petition. Please
e-mail
me with any information that you find out and see if you can get a copy
of the petition. I called New Yorkers Against Gun Violence and they refused
to send me a copy.
March, 21st was the final date of this
seasons Orange County Pistol League with Dutchess County winning the top
spot by a nice margin.
The OCPL shoots 60 rounds of 22 Cal. at Master
Class in Monroe on every other Tuesday night starting in October and ending
in the following March or April, skipping several weeks for holidays,
for a total of 12 dates. Anyone can join no matter what your skill level
is and it only takes about one hour. Call Master
Class in September for more information and CLICK
HERE for more information and the course of fire.
Team scores are calculated by adding the
4 highest scores from members of shooting on each team. 60 rounds are
fired with 600 with 60 X being a perfect score for each event.
Rich B. took top honors with an average
score of 577, 193 X and 96% score. The lowest shooter shot an average
score of 414 with a 69% average. As you can tell from the range of scores,
shooters of all skill levels are welcome. (With my elbow, shoulder problems
I was only able to get an average of 499 with a 83% ave.)
TOTAL | Top 4 shooters |
Ave team score |
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SCORE |
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AVE |
Out of 600 |
Behind |
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DCPA |
27349 |
665 |
2279 |
569 |
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Monroe Chester |
26520 |
465 |
2210 |
552 |
829 |
Pleasantville |
25785 |
382 |
2148 |
537 |
735 |
Black Rock |
25283 |
361 |
2106 |
526 |
502 |
Woodbury |
24749 |
279 |
2062 |
515 |
534 |
Rockland |
24092 |
287 |
2007 |
501 |
657 |
Master Class is going to have a SUMMER "L" COURSE LEAGUE every Wednesday Night starting May 3rd, 2006 and running until August 3rd, 2006. Only the top 10 scores count so you can have "do over's." It will be a center fire league with 60 shots at 25 yards. All are welcome.
The Orange County Federation of Sportsmens Clubs, Inc. has announce that it will be holding the 2nd Annual Rudy Vallet Memorial Youth Fishing Derby on Saturday May, 20th starting at 10:00 AM. It is free for the kids between 5 to 14 and will be held at the Shawangunk Fish And Game Club off of Rt. 17 M, Middletown, NY. Lots of prizes will be given away and free hotdogs and sodas for the kids.
The Orange County Federation of Sportsmens
Clubs, Inc. has announce that it will be holding a Flea Market at Black
Rock on July 22nd. Both inside and outside tables will be available and
they will have free parking. Food will also be available. Tables are not
limited to /hunting/fishing related items so you can bring anything that
you want to bring.
Everyone had lots of fun and good food that this years Friends of the NRA Dinner in Middletown on March 4th, especially those who won guns and other prizes. We gave away a lot of guns and many other prizes and we had the largest number of Silent Auction items we have ever had. We also had many great Auction items. I will let some of the pictures speak for themselves. If you were not able to attend, please try to attend next year's Friends of the NRA Dinner and the Orange County Federation Dinner this Fall. All of the money at the Friends of the NRA Dinner goes to the NRA Foundation and half of the money stays in NY and is given as grants to clubs and groups in NY to promote Education and the Shooting Sports.
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These are just a few of this years winners. I will make a photo Album of the event soon. If you want your picture just send me an e-mail and I will sent you the full size file. |
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![]() Hosts Ralph Esposito and Radio Fred at the WASB studio. |
I was on the 2nd Amendment Radio show on 3/30/06. The weekly 1 1/2 hour radio show is based out of WASB 1590 AM - Brockport, NY, and WRSB 1310 AM - Canandaigua, NY and you can download the show from the internet HERE. It is the only state wide radio show in NY and the only one in the nation as far as I have found. The show is supported by several pro-gun groups and you can expect to hear pro-gun supporters and leaders from across NY and the nation each week. Some of the regular guest are Ken Mathison, the head of SCOPE; Tom King, the head of NYSRPA and Larry Pratt, the head of GOA; various other people from the NRA and other groups across the nation. They also have time for other guest representing various government branches like County Clerks, the military, the police are just a few. |
The numbers are in for the first 5 years
of NY State's CoBIS or Combined Ballistic
Identification System program and now we know
that 121,853 new handguns were sold in NY State and were registered with
the program and somewhere between 15.5 to 28 Million Dollars was spent.
What did we get for our money? No "hits" were made using the
original CoBIS system but in the last year, a way around the Federal ban
of linking NY State's CoBIS program with the Federal National
Integrated Ballistic Identification
Network program using a back-up tape provide some results.
Using the NIBIN data collected from know crimes, a grand total of two
times the system provided a link between a gun used in a crime and the
person who owned bought the gun new in NY. Both cases also came from the
same location, Rochester.
Never heard of the hits, missed the banner
on the capital building in Albany, the press releases from DCJS and New
Yorkers Against Gun Violence? That is because they don't want the information
to come out about the "hits" because both of them show was a
waste of time and money the program is. I have sent in Freedom of Information
Acts request and have not gotten anything back but the rumor, (that I
will correct if I ever find out the truth,) is that the first hit was
of shell casings found on the street after a "shots fired" call.
No one was hurt but by the time the shell casing found its way through
the NIBIN program and by the time a match was found, the statue of limitations
had run out on this misdemeanor crime but in the mean time the person
who owned the gun had already been in trouble and his handgun had been
taken away while his license was being suspended/revoked.
Hit number two, (2,) just happened in Dec.
of 2005 again in Rochester using NIBIN data. Again the person was already
in trouble, (again according to the rumors,) and his license had been
suspended/revoked however the police never went by to pick up the person's
gun. When the police, prompted by the hit finally went to the suspect
to get the gun when they asked the suspect where he kept the gun, he told
them and when the police when to look the gun was gone. When the police
told the suspect that the gun was gone all he said was that the gun must
have been stolen and he wanted to report a stolen gun.
Some of the
numbers: |
Dollars spent: |
State Police Man Hours = 15 people at 2,080 MH per year =31,200 per year * 5 years = 156,000 total so far or 1.3 MH per gun. |
I know of two bills that they could pass. 1. Require that police take the guns of the people who have had their pistol license suspended or revoked within 24 hours. 2. Require that those guns be test fired and the shell case sent to directly to CoBIS and NIBIN within 78 hours.
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