NOTE MAJOR CHANGES IN 2018
The Pistol License Department moved back to the Gov. Center in Goshen in March.
The Sheriff’s Department is taking even more control over the Pistol License. The biggest change is who will be issuing the pistol licenses. In the past seven Judges, three County Criminal Court Judges and four Family Court Judges, issued pistol licenses and amendments but starting sometime in March 2018 only have the three Criminal Court Judges issue licenses and amendments. Who your Judge is should not impact your application. This is an UNOFFICAL LIST and subject to change without notice.
CLICK HERE TO SEE WHO YOUR JUDGE IS.
I still get people who fail
to list an arrest for minor charges including this also includes some serious driving violations that are listed as misdemeanors like driving on a suspended license. IF YOU FAIL TO LIST AN ARREST, DON'T EXPECT TO GET A LICENSE.
THE JUDGE DOES NOT WANT TO HEAR THAT YOU FORGOT BEING ARRESTED!
(How stupid do you think that you sound to
the Judge when you say that you forgot the only time that you have
been handcuffed, placed in the back of a cop car, read your rights,
been fingerprinted, searched, placed in a jail cell, appeared for
arraignment, hired a lawyer and gone to trial but this does not have to happen in all cases. Some violations, like driving on a suspended license are arrest even though you were only given a ticket. Check with your lawyer!)
Just remember that the sooner you turn in your application, the sooner you get your license.
HOW TO GET A PISTOL LICENSE IN ORANGE COUNTY,
It is not difficult to get a pistol license in Orange
County if you are 21 years old, qualify and follow the county and state
requirements. It will cost you a small amount of money and a few
months for the paperwork to go through, a few hours for a class and some
meetings but generally all you do is turn in your application, pay your
money and wait. It is easier than you think, (but to be honest, it would
be a lot easier if we lived in many other states.) If you
have no major problems in your background and can get four people to sign
as references, then you should have no problem.
If you are between 14 and 21 a new law passed in
2006 prevents you from getting a license but the new law allows you
to shoot at a range under supervision. (See below.)
INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO ORANGE COUNTY
Because of the size of the file this page has been split into several
Click on the colored heading to go to the related page.
SPECIFIC NEW YORK STATE REQUIREMENTS
- HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE?
- HOW DO I BUY MY FIRST GUN?
- WHAT ABOUT RESTRICTION ON MY LICENSE?
- WHAT ARE THE STATE REQUIREMENTS?
- WHAT TYPE OF LICENSE SHOULD I APPLY FOR?
- WHAT ARE SOME STATE LAWS THAT I SHOULD KNOW
- WHEN DO I HAVE TO CARRY MY LICENSE AND AMENDMENTS?
- I HAVE A GUN BUT NO LICENSE.
- I'VE BEEN A BAD PERSON.
THE FEDERAL BRADY LAW & MYTHS
- OTHER IMPORTANT INFORMATION.
- WHAT ABOUT THE BRADY LAW AND NICS CHECK?
- POPULAR MYTHS
- PEPPER SPRAY
INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO ORANGE COUNTY
The original source for all applications is:
GETTING AN APPLICATION:
You can now download the initial application called the Pistol Permit Pedigree Sheet (PPS-01) and the Arrest / Charge Affidavit that must be notarized.
The application will give you all of the instructions
for filling out the pistol application and will tell you everything
that you need to know.
The people who work in the office are very nice and
will try as hard as they can to help you and to supply you with the
information that you request. You can stop by and pick up an application or they will mail you an application and list. Just remember that they can not tell you when or how
a judge will rule on your application or make judges work any faster.
They can not tell you what to fill in on the application so that you
get what you want. They also have other jobs to do so just remember
that your request might not be the most important thing that they must
do on any given day.
The application can be downloade along with the Arrest/Charge Affidavit.
The Sheriff's Department started offering NON-NRA courses in April of 2014 in order to raise some more money. The course is not to as high of a standard as NRA Pistol classes. Initially the Sheriff's Department would only accept safety class certificates from instructors that they approved and who gave the Sheriff's Department’s own poor attempt at a safety course. I filed a lawsuit against the changes and on 6/15/2015 the Orange County Sheriff's Department caved and started accepting certificates from people who were not on their approved list of instructors and taught the Orange County Sheriff's Department's Course. The Orange County Sheriff's Department has made a big deal about their "list of approved and recommended instructors." While the Orange County Sheriff’s Department did require all instructors to be NRA Certified Instructors, (originally at least one of the Orange County Sheriff’s Department’s own instructors was not an NRA Certified Instructor,) some of the people on the list have given very few if any classes and many instructors who were previously giving the NRA class were giving a better class than the Orange County Sheriff's Department's Course.
Stay tuned for additional changes required because of my lawsuit.
CLICK HERE FOR MY LAWSUIT WEB PAGE
SIMPLE OUTLINE OF THE PROCESS
Download your application and arrest affidavit. Pistol Permit Pedigree Sheet (PPS-01) and the Arrest / Charge Affidavit
Fill out your paperwork, get your Postal Money Order and go to the Sheriff's Department to turn in your paperwork and get fingerprinted. You will have to make an appointment to get fingerprinted so call the Sheriff's Department as soon as you start the process. Depending on demand and how lucky you are four to six weeks to get a fingerprint appointment is not unusual. (Some people have had to wait up to four months or more in times of high demand but you can never tell how long it will take you to get an appointment.) MAKE THE APPOINTMENT, you should have enough time to fill out the simple paperwork.) When you turn in your "Pedigree Sheet" the Sheriff's Department will enter your information into the computer, print your application with fingerprints and picture and give your actual application along with your character reference questionnaires and check list. (And any other forms they decide that you should fill out.)
Get your reference questionnaires filled out and have your references sign both copies of your application. Put down a deposit on a gun if you want to and/or fill out the "co-owned firearm" form if you are cross registering a handgun(s) with someone else and attend your safety class. Purchase of a handgun BEFORE a handgun license is issued is not required starting 3/4/16. After your license is issued you can then add a gun whenever you want to using an AMENDMENT FORM.
Go back to the Sheriff's Department and turn in everything and have your interview or you might have to have to make an appointment for a later date. (If you don't have your Safety Class certificate, ask them what they want you to do. You might be able to hand it in later.) YOU DON'T HAVE TO REGISTER A HANDGUN ON YOUR INITIAL LICENSE.
Wait. (If you don't hear anything in a few months, call the Pistol License Department to see where your application is. If the Judge has had your application for several weeks you can always call the Judge's office to find out what is going on. Be nice! Starting sometime in March of 2018 the Pistol License Department might not get your application until the end of the process so they will not know if the application has been sent to the Judge or where the application is.)
Depending on what you requested and who your judge is you might get a letter to go see your Judge.
You will get a letter from the Pistol License Department telling you to come in and pick up your license.
You will go to the Pistol License Department in Goshen, have your picture taken, give them a thumb print to go on your license; they will print out your license and give you your license and "Pick up slip."
You take your license and "pick up slip" and go to your gun store to pick up your handgun.
Pistol Permits Requirements
(List by the Pistol Permit Department)
have include links and
my comments in Orange.)
- Applicant must be 21 years of age and an Orange County Resident.
- Applicant must take a HANDGUN SAFETY COURSE. (CLICK HERE FOR INFORMAION ON MY CLASS)
- You can purchase a handgun BEFORE OR AFTER you are issued a license or you can cross register handguns. (Use the Sheriff's Department's incorrectly labled "Co-owner" form.).
- Four Orange County References. They must live here (It
does not matter who they are.)
- Must be finger printed for FBI and State Clearance, at the Orange
County Sheriff's Department.
- Fees $97.00 (reduced in fall of 2016)made out to Orange County Commissioner of Finance. Postal Money Order ONLY
- You cannot be convicted of a felony.
- Turn in complete application to the Orange County Sheriff's Department.
- Takes 3-5 months, ( but NY law allows up to 6 months.)
UNOFFICIAL COPIES OF INSTRUCTIONS
AND QUESTIONS ON FORMS
* Please note that the instruction or forms can
change without notice.
Always follow the instructions given to you with
This is just an example of what the actual official NY State Pistol Application form looks like.
WHEN AND WHERE TO TURN IN YOUR APPLICATION:
After you have filled out the "Pedigree sheet" and have your "Arrest Affidavit" notarized you will go to the Sheriff's Department to be fingerprinted
and turn the application in to the I. D. officer. You can call 291-7687 for directions and hours and to make an appointment. The instructions with
the application will provide the phone numbers and dates and times you
can have your fingerprints taken. NOTE: If you still have an old application remember to bring the receipt for $10 as proof that you paid the application
fee when you picked up your application.
The Sheriff's Office is now requiring that you make an appointment to get fingerprinted and to turn in your application. CALL 291-7932. They also add additional hours when they have to. Call to verify hours. It will normally take several weeks to months to get an appointment depending on demand so focus on making your fingerprint appointment first.
Check your instructions and verify hours. Standard Fingerprinting Hours for the Orange County Sheriff's Department as of 6/25/2015. (Subject to change without notice.)
Monday 9:00 AM to 12:00 Noon
Wednesday 2:00 PM to 6:00 PM
Friday 9:00 AM to 12:00 Noon
1st & 3rd Saturday 9:00 AM to 12:00 Noon
WHEN DEMAND IS HIGH THEY HAVE ADDED SUNDAYS AND EVENING HOURS YOU WILL FIND OUT WHAT THEY ARE WHEN YOU CALL FOR YOUR APPOITMENT.
Turn north on 6 1/2 Station Rd.
(Healey Brothers is on the corner.)
Take a left on to Wells Farm Rd.
Drive all the way around back and go in
You can fill out and turn in your application
before you are 21 but NY State law requires that you be 21 to get
a license. Because state law only gives the issuing Judge 6
months to issue a license without explaining why it is taking so long,
you do not gain anything by turning in your license application more
than 6 months before your 21st birthday. It is taking between
3 and 6 months to process and issue pistol licenses with 4 months
being about the average. The new law also allows people between
14 and 21 to shoot a handgun under 265.20 (7-e) so you do not need
a license for that and you can shoot when you are taking the required
7-e. Possession and use of a pistol or revolver,
at an indoor or outdoor pistol range
located in or on premises owned or occupied by a duly incorporated
organization organized for conservation purposes or to foster proficiency
in small arms or at a target pistol shooting competition under the
auspices of or approved by an association or organization described
in paragraph 7-a of this subdivision for the purpose of loading and
firing the same by a person at least fourteen years of age but under
the age of twenty-one who has not been previously convicted of
a felony or serious offense, and who
does not appear to be, or pose a threat to be, a danger to himself
or to others; provided however, that such possession
shall be of a pistol or revolver duly licensed to and shall be
used under the immediate supervision, guidance and instruction
of, a person specified in paragraph seven of this subdivision.
HERE FOR MORE INFORMATION
WHAT ARE ORANGE COUNTY'S REQUIREMENTS?
Orange County really has only a few additional requirements:
First is that the four Orange County residents who
sign as character references on your application, (required by ny law,) must also fill in a short
and simple questionnaire(not required by NY law.)
You will be given 4 copies of the questionnaire
when you get your Pistol License Application at the Sheriff's Department when
you are fingerprinted.. You are responsible
for having your character references fill out the questionnaire THAT
MUST BE NOTARIZED. You will then turn in the four questionnaires
when you turn in your application to the Sheriff's Department. Talk to the Sheriff's Department
if you are new to the area and have a hard time finding the four
Orange County residents. You may use anyone that you know
who lives in Orange County no matter how long that they have known
may use your boss, your real-estate agent, your postmen, your banker,
your insurance agent or anyone else. (The people who sign
as references are not admitting any legal responsibility for you
and their names are not on your license or any public record.)
Some people have had a problem with their references
failing to return their references questionnaire. Because of this you
should make a copy of a blank questionnaire and do not let the people
sign your application yet. When you go to pick up the notarized questionnaire
then have the people sign the application. If you have the people sign
the application first and then for some reason you never get the notarized
questionnaire back then you have a problem because their name is still
on your application.
Pistol Permit Reference Forms must be
notarized in the presence of the signatory, 4/15/04
The Orange County Sheriff's Office
is encountering problems with pistol permit applications. At present,
4 character reference forms are to be submitted notarized with
the application. The Sheriff's Department has done some spot checks
on the notarizations, and has found that some notaries are notarizing
the forms not in the presence of the signatory. This is a violation
of law that the Department of State does not tolerate, nor does
the Sheriff's Department. When submitting pistol permit applications,
please ensure that each character reference form is signed in
the presence of a notary. The Sheriff's Office takes the issuance
of a pistol permit very seriously, and will deny processing the
permit if any laws are broken for convenience or to cut corners.
HERE TO SEE A COPY OF THE CHARACTER REFERENCE FORM
requirement is that you sign and have notarized the ARREST / CHARGE AFFIDAVIT. This is because so many people who have been arrested
failed to report the arrest and then claimed that they did not know
that they were suppose to report that arrest that happened that they
had been told the arrest was "SEALED" or expunged. Your records were sealed
or expunged but the arrest was not so they will be found. (See
note below) (added 6/6/03)
A third requirement is that all judges will require
that applicants take a firearms training class unless you are exempt
because of proof of acceptable training less than a year old.
(See the next topic)
A fourth requirement is that you will have to have an interview with an investigator for the Sheriff's Department to go over your form. This meeting with the investigator
is to re-ask you the questions you answered on the original application,
(Such as, "Since you turned in this application HAVE YOU
EVER UNDERGONE TREATMENT FOR ALCOHOLISM OR DRUG USE?"), and to
go over any problems that the investigation uncovered in your background.
(See PLEASE NOTE below.) It should be an easy meeting and only
take a few moments.
An optional requirement is a meeting with your issuing
Judge. After the Sheriff's Department forwards the results of
their investigation to your issuing Judge, you might get a letter to
arrange a meeting with your Judge. A meeting is not required by
law but the Judge might request to meet you for many reasons such as:
the type of license you requested, your restrictions, your background
or he or she may just want to meet you. Some Judges do not require
a meeting when they issue a restricted license. Do not get too
upset about your meeting with your Judge. Look on it like a job
interview; be nice, say "Yes your honor, No your honor," dress nice
and do not bring up the Second Amendment. Remember that it is
the Judge's job to decide if you get a license and not the Sheriff's
Orange County does not have a formal specific limit
on the number of handguns that you can own. SEE: OTHER
From the ARREST / CHARGE AFFIDAVIT and the license application:
"HAVE YOU EVER BEEN ARRESTED OR INDICTED ANYWHERE FOR ANY OFFENSE,
INCLUDING DWI (EXCEPT TRAFFIC INFRACTIONS)?" (Driving while on a suspended license is an arrest.) Look at the bottom
of the application, "ANY OMISSION OF FACT OR ANY FALSE STATEMENT WILL
BE SUFFICIENT CAUSE TO DENY THIS APPLICATION ..." The Sheriff's
Department does a very good investigation. If you have ever been
taken before a judge, had your fingerprints taken or been taken into
custody anywhere, at any age, for any reason
you would be well advised to go over the details with the Sheriff's
Department before you fail to list something that should be listed and/or
call your lawyer and obtain legal advice! Some violations of traffic laws are also arrest. If you were given a ticket for driving on a suspended drivers license it is an arrest even if you were only given a ticket. Also
list DWAIs. Even Court files that were dismissed and
sealed before you were a teenager will be found out. It does not
matter if it was a run in with the law or a mental health problem, you
should not think that anything that you have done from the day you were
born to the day you applied for your license will be missed in the investigation.
(I know of one person who was refused a license because they failed
to list a possibly questionable ruling by a Family Court Judge when
the person was less than 10 years old.) However, just because
you did do something minor years ago does not mean that you will not
get a license. Very few people have had a perfect life and I do
know of people who were arrested and convicted, (I don't want to say
what for,) and were still able to get a license. It is up to your
Judge to decide so let them decide. If you want a license, fill
out the application with the correct information and apply. See:
I'VE BEEN A BAD
do not know what words to use to convey the message that you should
be honest in filling out your application and that your Judge will be
fair and will give you a fair hearing according to the law when deciding
on the day the license is issued if you are a person "
... of good moral character; ...". See
PL400 under WHAT ARE THE STATE REQUIREMENTS?
) CLICK HERE TO SEE INFORMATION
ABOUT SEALED COURT RECORDS
You no longer have to have a handgun(s) to put on your license when you apply for a handgun license. IF you want to have a handgun on your initil application you have 2
- You can buy a gun from a gun store.
All of the local gun stores know how this works so it is nothing new
to them. You will have to pick out a gun, put down a deposit and get
a deposit slip showing the make, model and serial number of the gun/guns
you will add to your license. If for some reason you end up not getting
you license, all of the stores that I know of will refund your deposit
but they might require that you pay some restocking fee. Ask.
- You can have someone who owns a gun
sell you a gun or allow you to add their gun/guns to your license. This
will require that you turn in a notarized Sheriff's Department incorrectly name "Co-owned Firearms" form saying that you can
have the guns on your license and listing the gun/guns by make, model
and serial number with a copy of the owners pistol license both front
and back. (After you have your license you will not be required to have
the letter cross registering handguns notarized when you turn in your amendment to the Pistol Department.) Having a handgun on your license does not imply ownership and NY Law does not require ownership to have a handgun listed on your license.
WHAT IS THE REQUIRED FIREARMS TRAINING CLASS?
Due to my lawsuit, I have found out SOME Judges do not require a class or at least the Undersheriff has not provided any proof that they do require applicants to take a class. (Why should you have to take a class when you don't know if you are going to get a license?) At this time the Sheriff's Department requires completing a safety class or proof of training less than one year old, (AS OF 3/1/2017 THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT MIGHT TELL YOU THE SAFETY CERTIFICATE IS ONLY GOOD FOR 6 MONTHS OR A YEAR.)
such as Military small arms or police training even though this is not required in NY State law. If you are not
exempt, you will need to locate a class. Of course I want you to take my course but other people also offer classes. CLICK HERE TO SEE MORE INFO ABOUT MY CLASS
I WOULD NOT TAKE THE COURSE AT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. You will not gain any benefit just because you took the Sheriff's Department's Class as far as the processing your application and they only cover about half of what an my class covers. Handgun Classes that are sometimes
offered by some local clubs are also accepted. Costs for the class range between $35 to
$150 or more, and the class can last from 3 hours to 10 hours.
agreement could be reach as to what the class would cover and the Sheriff's
Department and the Judges did not implement PL 400 (3)(b) Application
for an exemption under paragraph seven-b of subdivision a of section
265.20 of this chapter, that would allow a license applicant
to handle and fire a handgun. Because of this it is technically
illegal to touch or shoot a handgun while taking a safety class!
Go figure! (This changed for some people in 2000 and again in 2006 when a new
law allows persons from 14
to 21 of age to shoot a handgun at a range under a certified instructor
without a license.))
NOTE: If you are not yet 21 you can shoot a handgun
as part of your class. Talk to your instructor.
WHO WILL MY JUDGE BE?
Each county sets up its own system of how the licenses
will be issued and what judges will be in charge. In March of 2018 the system in Orange County was changed so that only the three Criminal Court Judges will issue licenses and amendments. (With the promise that it will speed up the system and improve it.) You will have to call
the Pistol License Dept. and ask them if it is really important.
This is not a very uniform system because the law allows each judge
to do what ever they want to do. That means that each of the 3
judges picks out what they will require, what restrictions they will
or will not put on a license and what other standards have to be met.
The judges do have some informal understanding of how some things will
work and what the Sheriff's Department is required to do. Each
judge is elected for 10 years and they have to retire
at age 70. Of all of the votes that anyone can make that has a
direct impact on handgun licenses in Orange County, THIS IS IT!
All judges fall under the jurisdiction of the 9th
Judicial Court. You can contact the Judges through the County's
main phone # of 291-2690. (I would not call them. They will
contact you if they need or want to talk to you.)
Who your Judge is should not impact your application. This is an UNOFFICAL LIST and subject to change without notice.
CLICK HERE TO SEE WHO YOUR JUDGE IS BY ZIP CODE..
Handgun Licensing Judges
Judges are elected to a ten year term. This list was updated on 3/18/2018
|Hon. Craig S. Brown (Criminal Court)
|Hon. Robert H Freehill (Criminal Court)
|Hon. William L. DeProspo (Criminal Court)
|March, 2018; the number of issuing Judges was reduced from 7 to the three Criminal Court Judges.
2018 Judge DeRosa retired and was replaced by Judge DeProspo.
*6/2015 Judge Berry retired and left an open seat. His permits were being cycled through all of the judges until early 2016 when Judge Brown was elected to replace him. Judge Brown will start working on permits at some point in the middle of 2016. He is currently working in Westchester County on a short term basis. Judge Edward T. McLoughlin from Westchester is the issuing Judge until Brown takes over. I have no explation as to why they did this.
(On Jan. 11, 2007 Judge Freehill was given the
following towns that had been covered by the following Judges:
Hon. Lori Currier Woods lost
Tuxedo, Warwick: Hon. Carol Kline lost City of Port Jervis,
Goshen. West Point Academy is a new area.)
(On 7/28/08 Judge Kiedaisch stopped issuing pistol licenses and her towns were divided between Berry, who got Marlboro and Freehill who got the City and Town of Newburgh.)
HOW MUCH WILL IT COST?
You will have to pay for:
- $97.00 in total when you go to get fingerprinted (You download the initial application form for free.) (Postal Money order only made out to Orange County Commissioner of Finance.)
- $35.00 to $85 for the firearms training class
Total $132.75 to $177.75 for the application and safety class
NOTE: The NEW YORK STATE EXECUTIVE LAW SECTION 837 (ARTICLE
35 - DIVISION OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE SERVICES), was amendment EFFECTIVE
7/1/03, increasing the fingerprint processing fee from seventy four
dollars ($74.00) to ninety nine dollars ($99.00). However the fee was reduced to $94.25 on Oct. 1st of 2007 when the FBI decreased the fee for the computer taken fingerprint check and reduced again to $91.50 in March of 2012.
In 2004, Gov. Mario Pataki tried to introduce
5 year renewable licenses with
$100 going to NY State and allowing counties to charge an unlimited
Gov. Paterson has introduced legislation for renewable licenses starting in 2008.
here for more information
Under the NY SAFE Act, all licenses will have to be "recertified" starting in 2018.
This process will verify your address and the guns you own only, It is not a renewal or reapplication and should be free.
HOW DO I GET MY LICENSE AFTER THE LICENSE IS APPROVED?
The Pistol Permit Department will
send you a letter stating that you license is ready to be picked up.
Starting in 2005 all licenses are now the plastic "drivers license'
type. You will have to go to the Pistol Permit Department in
Goshen to have your digital picture taken and be given your license.
2018 Changes (as of 3/6/18)
The Pistol License Department moved back to the new improved Orange County Government Center in Goshen starting 3/12/2018.
The Orange County Sheriff’s Department is continuing its takeover of the pistol license process. The number of Judges who issue pistol licenses and amendments has been reduced from the old seven to three by using only the three Orange County Criminal Court Judges, Brown, Freehill and DeProspo. How they will decide who your Judge will be is unknown at this time.
3/4/2016, Orange County no longer requires that you purchase a handgun BEFORE you are issued a pistol permit.
After you have your handgun license you can add a handgun(s) using the Amendment Form.
The Sheriff's Department took over the list of instructors and only "approved" instructors who teach the Sheriff's Department's class were allowed on the list and for the first six months of 2015 the Sheriff's Department would only accept Safety Certificates issued by their approved instructors. I objected to the new requirements and because of that the Undersheriff Ken Jones would not put me on the list of "approved" instructors. After I brought my lawsuit they changed their mind and now accept "safety certificates" from all instructors.
The Sheriff's Office is now requiring that you make an appointment to get fingerprinted and to turn in you application. CALL 291-7932
The fee for the fingerprinting has changed and is now $91.50.
Fingerprinting Hours for the Orange County Sheriff's Department:
Monday 10:30 AM to 12:00 Noon
Wednesday 3:30 PM to 5:30 PM
Friday 10:30AM to 12:00 Noon
1st & 3rd Saturday 8:00 AM to 12:00 Noon
The Orange County Sheriff's Department has added additional hours by adding Friday 10:30 to Noon and not requiring appointments on Wed. They have also changed how they do the interview. If you have all of your paperwork, (a copy of: 1. receipt for a handgun, 2. safety class certificate and 3. your letter justifying your need for an unrestricted license,) when you turn in your pistol application and reference letters, they will try to do your interview then so you will not have to come back. If you don't have your paperwork you can give it do them at a latter date. (They prefer you fax everything to them at 291-7686 but if you mail it please put Attention Pistol Permits on the letter.) Also if you provided two forms of ID that shows you live where you live they will sometimes wave the home visit. The best IDs are cable, phone, oil, gas & electric bills that show your name and address.
The Orange County Sheriff's Department has some new equipment that they are using to process pistol application so some changes are being made to the forms and process.
You will no longer need to get the additional pictures, a savings of $10. You will also not have to get ink on your fingers. The whole process is being computerized.
The biggest change is that once you get your fingerprints done, you will have 60 to complete the forms and return them. The 60 day time limit starts when you have your fingerprints done.
After you turn in your filled in application they still have to do all of the other checks so it might not speed up the process too much.
You will not have to have your receipt for the gun you are adding to your license or your safety class certificate until you have your Sheriff's Department interview. If you have the stuff when you turn in your application and want to turn it in, that is OK also.
YOU MUST USE BLACK INK
ON ALL OF THE FORMS
Starting Jan. 1, 2005 it will cost
you $10 to pick up a pistol license application. The law allows
them to charge the fee and in the past you paid the $10 when you
turned in your application. The reason for the change is that
people were picking up applications and never turning them in
so they were handing out thousands of applications but only getting
a few hundred back.
They will stamp your application
when you pick it up and give you a receipt. You have to keep the
receipt when to show the Orange County Sheriff's Department as
proof of payment when you hand in your application.
| Don't complain
about the $10. It cost them much more than $10 to provide
the applications and to process the paperwork. The $10 fee
was written into the law decades ago and has never been changed.
Several counties have had the law changed to have renewable
licenses and to increase the fees. Nassau County charges $200
for a 5 year license, and NY City charges $340 for a 3 year
license. In 2004, Pataki tried to introduce 5 year renewable
licenses with $100 going to NY State and each county being
allowed to charge anything that they want and you know that
some counties would have charged $1,000 or more per gun. Now
you can expect the anti-gun people in the NY Assembly and
Senate to introduce a renewable license bill every year from
now on until it passes. Just another reason to join not only
the NRA but also NY State groups like SCOPE:
The Shooter's Committee On Political Education, New York
State Rifle and Pistol Association or the Orange County
Federation of Sportsmen.